Update on James Trimm and his Hebraic Roots Version (HRV)
The Way International has filed a lawsuit dated
June 12, 2009, in Texas Federal Court against
James Trimm for Copyright Infringement.
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Federal District
Court Filings > Texas > Texas Northern District
Court > Intellectual Property > Copyrights
June 12, 2009
The Way International v. Trimm et al TX Northern
(jJudge)McBryde Copyrights
Copyright Infringement
Plaintiff: The Way International Defendant:
James Trimm, Society for the Advancement of
Nazarene Judaism http:
//dockets.justia.com/browse/state-texas/court-txndce/noscat-10/nos-820/
*The Way International has asked for a trial by jury.
Update: 1. COMPLAINT FOR COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT AND FALSE ADVERTISING with JURY DEMAND against James Trimm, Society for the Advancement of Nazarene Judaism filed by The Way International. (Filing fee $350; Receipt number FW8810) (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit 1, # 2 Exhibit 2, # 3 Exhibit 3, # 4 Exhibit 4) (krg) (Entered: 06/15/2009)
...Summons Issued as to James Trimm, Society for the Advancement of Nazarene Judaism. (krg) (Entered: 06/16/2009)...
http://www.freecourtdockets.com/Dockets/The_Way_International_v_Trimm_4_09_cv_00338_Texas_Federal_District_Docket_Page_1_90608_98781.htm
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According to James
Trimm on one of his blogs, the lawsuit is an
attempt to
ban
his HR version, due to the 'correct Hebrew' etc.
In his first announcement about the lawsuit in
August, he says nothing about copyright
infringement being the issue. He also starts his
initial announcement post by a brief history of
the HRV, albeit lacking the repeated failed
delivery dates etc, and compares a few verses of
the HRV with The Way International's “Aramaic
English Interlinear New Testament” (AEINT),
declaring their translation to be antinomian,
anti torah, etc. He then makes it appear that a
different organization is launching the lawsuit
for copyright infringement:
[Re failed del dates etc:
See:
http://www.seekgod.ca/fraudnewsflash.htm ]
"The Bible they are trying to Ban! Posted by
James Trimm on August 7, 2009 at 7:47pm
"....Now an ostensibly Christian organization
has filed a federal lawsuit seeking to
effectively ban the Hebraic Roots Version… this
is a version of the Bible they do not want you
to have!...You can make donations to this legal
defense fund at *** or at ***. You can also make
tithes and offerings to the WNAE general fund at
the same locations." nazarenespace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-bible-they-are-trying-to
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After a few comments on his blog supporting his
version by his followers, he responded with
this, and note that according to docket records
listed above, if understanding correctly, a
summons was issued to him June 16:
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"Comment by James Trimm on August 7, 2009 at
9:55pm We were served with the suite back on
July 15th but have not said anything yet until
we had consulted with council and created a
legal fund. I am not sure how much of the
details of the suite I can reveal yet, am
waiting to hear from my atty on some of that.
But suffice it to say we believe that banning
a Bible would be unconstitutional to say the
least. As I said there are more details, but
I am waiting for word from our attorney about
how much I should state publicly at this time.
Among other issues is that arguing this case in
the forums, will reveal our legal strategies to
the other side before we have even gotten to
court."
"Comment by James Trimm on August 7, 2009 at
11:00pm Yes, we believe we can win... but
first we have to respond to the suite (or they
win by default).
That means serious legal expenses. (We are
asking the court to order them to pay our legal
fees, but that is all after the fact, and there
is no guarantee). " nazarenespace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-bible-they-are-trying-to
"Comment by James Trimm on August 8, 2009 at
8:04pm OK I know you all have been asking
some questions, and I can now answer SOME of
them.
The ostensibly Christian organization suing us
is The Way International, the group I wrote of
in this blog: nazarenespace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/there-is-a-way-which-seems.
Their suite alleges that our Hebraic Roots
Version infringes on the copyright their AEINT
translation, and they are thus asking the court
to effectively ban the HRV. We have not
infringed on their copyright and feel very
strongly that we can win this case, but that is
all I can say right now. It is not our intention
to reveal our legal arguments here before ever
getting to the court room. This would be like a
football team telling the press what plays they
intend to run before game day.
No matter how ridiculous you think this suite
might be, we must respond to it in court and it
is in a court room where we may ultimately have
to show it to be ridiculous. If we do not argue
our case in court, then they will prevail by
default. So even if the suite is ridiculous, we
must respond to it and that means legal fees. We
MAY recover those fees later, but that will be
up to a judge and after the fact, before we even
get that far, we must pay those fees and fight
this thing.
That is all I can say for now as I said above. "
nazarenespace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/the-bible-they-are-trying-to?id=2182335%3ABlogPost%3A31483&page=2#comments.
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Note: The blog entry which James Trimm references: "The ostensibly Christian organization suing us is The Way International, the group I wrote of in this blog: nazarenespace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/there-is-a-way-which-seems." was written just prior to his announcement concerning the lawsuit.
That article also holds more Way International connections to James Trimm.
Michael Rood & James Trimm & The WAY > http://www.SeekGod.ca/trfactor2.htm
I believe there is a
difference between a lawsuit based on violation
of copyright and someone simply attempting to
ban a 'book' aka James Trimm's Hebraic Roots
Version, which many would question it's validity
and content regardless of beliefs.
For more on James Trimm please see:
http://www.seekgod.ca/topichrministries.htm#james