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The Prophecy Club Part 2

2 Thessalonians 2:11

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Original article posted Spring of 2000, Revised/Updated March 2006

The following subjects are covered:

The Prophecy Club & Tom Van Asperen

The Prophecy Club & Michael Rood

Y2K Failures and The Prophecy Club Change in Direction

Scriptural Warnings

 

The Prophecy Club & Tom Van Asperen 

Tom Van Asperen, who was finally dropped as a speaker from the Prophecy Club in 1999 after much controversy including sexual issues, was warning people in the 90's that the United States was shortly going to be totally destroyed, six out of seven males would be killed, mothers would be eating their children, and other claims, and therefore everyone must flee the United States immediately, and move preferably to Belize or similar. His heresies were many and he warned, as did many others, that the US military system was not Y2K compliant. He, as does Michael Rood, used the made up name of Yahshua  for Jesus, was a promoter of ELS or Bible codes/gematria and also endorsed another Prophecy Club speaker, the late Yacov Rambsel, for his teaching on the codes.

It was reported  April 30 1999, at least 100 Christians fled to Belize, including five Churches of God families. In an interview with Bill Stough of The Journal, Van Asperen claimed to be 'an adviser and teacher' of the group and said he knew it "was almost time to flee because of a coded Bible language" and his mission was " to share with the world the message of the gospel and the Bible's secret last-day encrypted languages". The interview went on, including his predictions about WWIII, Y2K and its then coming destruction, the return of Christ for a 'visit', and noted his audience were fans of the Prophecy Club with influence possibly as high as 10,000 people and it was also stated:

"...The Church of God members said the stay in Belize could last a couple of years. After that, miraculous events will lead the nation of Egypt to send planes to fly the sojourners to that country, where they will reside for perhaps five more years or until the return of Christ.

Mr. Van Asperen commented that he is uncertain how long he can maintain his Web site or continue selling lecture tapes after he leaves the United States...

The church, he said, must flee from Israel, which he believes includes America, for two years, then move to Egypt...." 22b

Van Asperen's website twicespeak.com went down by 2002 , and while he was uncertain about how to continue his sales after leaving the US, he apparently overcame the need to flee the United States, or perhaps he has returned after his many failed prophecies. There is still, in March 2006, a W Thomas Van Asperen listed at Paradise, CA. And the  address information is identical to that given by Van Asperen for his corporation registration. His organization was Fourth Angel Seminars, P. O. Box 2227, Paradise, CA 95967, and it was actually incorporated as FOURTH ANGEL MINISTRIES, INC.. It was filed in California in 1982 and then suspended, although the suspension date is not available. But the registering agent's name on the corporation document is W THOMAS VAN ASPEREN, with the address given the same as can be seen in current 2006 telephone directories. See Corporate file

Van Asperen's video sold by The Prophecy Club at that time, after claims it was pulled in the spring or summer, was finally discontinued late 1999 after much controversy, and read:

“BIBLE PROPHECY DECODED: Was taught to Tom Van Asperen by the Holy Spirit. In this 10-hour seminar, Tom will teach you the language of ‘Twice Speak’ so you can begin to see your Bible like a brand new book. In this encrypted symbolic code language, Tom unveils the ‘sealed words’ in the books of Daniel, Revelation, and many other important prophesies! Tom says that the messages of Dumitru Duduman line up perfectly in this decoded scripture. This is a must for the serious Bible student. Four 2 1/2 hour video tapes $100. SPECIAL. For $75 receive the 200 code word list and two audio tapes on Tom’s answer to the rapture called ‘The Secret Hiding Place’ Free!”

It should be noted that Van Asperen's ministry website links were to such as: 23

the sacred name site, "EliYah Home Page  Very good stuff and tons of articles"

"Institute for Scripture Research,  Highly recommended! Read "Come out of Her My People" on-line"

"The Ron Wyatt Pages",

and another sacred name site, "The Covenant of Promise", which promotes the made up name of Yahshua and so on and also sells the ISR or The Scriptures which eliminate the Deity of Christ and so on. They are also a member of Messianic Israel Alliance, which is part of the Judah Ephraim Two House heresy, keeping the torah, rejecting Sunday worship, etc . 

Tom Van Asperen stated of "The Covenant of Promise" "Silver" <Ernie's handle> has been a great inspiration in my life and has some great links so why not give him a visit!"

The other great links he recommended from that site included Michael Rood's website, as well as Fossilized Customs, Your Arms to Israel which is Moshe Koniuchowski, etc. All of which are fringe organizations in the Hebrew Roots movements, and have been much discussed on this website. See topichrministries and topichr

Of the Prophecy Club ministry promotional link on Van Asperen's site in 1999, it was noted, "Tom Van Asperen has 11 radio broadcasts he did with The Prophecy Club recorded at this sight. Of course they use Real Audio. Careful here too, some of these speakers are great and some are very suspect. You Decide!"

The irony of this statement is almost overwhelming.

The Prophecy Club & Michael Rood

Aside from his proven false teachings and errant scholarship or lack thereof, there is the continued promotion of Michael Rood, his rejection of the Greek Texts, and his failed prophecies and date setting from 1995, to 1999, and every year to 2006 which have included the dates, which were hatched with the help of Robert Wadsworth: [Bolding added; from assorted articles]

1999-- Rood was teaching continually that the "Day of the Lord," the Sabbath millennium, the beginning of fulfillment of the prophecies of the Book of Revelation, would commence on September 11, 1999

"When I say that I feel that I was led to determine September 11, 1999 at sundown to be the beginning of the 7th millennium, I see it in two ways. As Bob Wadsworth and I were setting the calendar,...If the year 6001 does not begin on October 10th or 11th at sundown, we will continue to call God's people to repentance - The Day of the LORD is still at hand!  [See: Michael Rood: WAY Colleague, Occult Calendar & False Prophecies]

22 Tishri The Last Great Day The Battle of Armageddon Millennial Reign Begins---Aviv 1, 6001 (May 5, 2000 at sundown in Jerusalem) began the Day of the Lord - The 7th Millennium. Tishri 1, 6001 (October 29, 2000) [See Michael Rood Changing Theology ]

September 13, 2001-- written September 7. "The date, if all of my calculations are correct, will be Tishri 1, 6001"

August 2002-- I will be here in Jerusalem--ready to begin hauling the dead bodies from the Temple Mount to prepare for the Feast of Tabernacles and the "Latter Rain"-- please join me ... When the smoke clears"

"This would indicate that a war of apocalyptic proportions is due from Tishri 1 to Tishri 10 in the fall of 6002 / 2002. Waiting for you in Jerusalem..." [See also Changing the Word of God, Failed Prophecies, No Documentation> The 70th Week Ministry of the Messiah 4 Tape Series]

2002, and still on Michael Rood's website as of March 2006, Feast of Trumpets, written by Mark Aaron Robinson of Shalom Outreach Ministries with more speculation that the Tribulation might begin on Tishri 1 2003 and based in part on the so-called "visions" of Dimitru Duduman, which have been proven incorrect.

Michael Rood wrote in way of an introduction and stating his support for Mark Robinson's predictions and calculations, "...I will be here in Jerusalem – ready to begin hauling dead bodies from the Temple Mount to prepare for the Feast of Tabernacles and the ‘Later Rain’ – please join me… "

Mark Robinson wrote,". ...If this day is Yom Kippur in 2010, then the Tribulation (and the destruction of America as Gabriel said to Dmitru) should begin on Yom Kippur in 2003 –next week on October 6-7 (per New moon sightings in Jerusalem). Are there other reasons to think this might be the case? Yes! Gabriel told Dmitru to read Hosea 4:6-9...." 24

Some of the predictions posted by Mark Robinson and promoted by Michael Rood have April 8, 2006 as "Yeshua's entry into Jerusalem and Probable date for Abomination of Desolation" followed with 9/28/ 2009 for "The last Trump". 25

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world

Incidentally, Michael Bunker, who did three Prophecy Club tours, warned Stan Johnson about Bill Deagle as well as Michael Rood, before breaking from the Prophecy Club:

August 28, 2001..."...I talked to Stan about Bill Deagle during my first tour. ... It took months for Stan to back off of Bill Deagle. He still sold Deagle’s videos and books long after he knew that Bill was a fraud. Stan even read a Bill Deagle "vision" at the end of my first video AFTER I told him... I also warned Stan about the poison of several other speakers, after people came up to me at the PC meetings crying - because they had allowed one of Stan’s speakers to "mark" them with an upside down cross on their forehead. When I found out Stan was going to send the gentile "rabbi" Michael Rood on tour – I warned him again. Rood proceeded to use the PC platform to build his own kingdom, while simultaneously convincing the world that he is an authentic "messianic Jewish rabbi". More false prophecies and wrong calendars were to follow.

Then, rather than return to their original base, or shut it down for lack of support – The P.C. changed gears..." 26

Stan Johnson responded in 2001 to Michael Bunker and that was also posted by Bunker:

"...Stan:
It was not Bunker's place to warn me about anyone. Bunker was one of 100 guest speakers we attempted to help get his message out. I don't let one speaker tell me who the other speakers are to be or not to be. I try to let God run this ministry, not guest speakers. Though I regret putting a few speakers on tour, God did not call Bunker to decide on speakers..."
27

Stan Johnson's statement concerning the upside down cross placed on foreheads:

"....As far as the "mark" - well, at first it looked good. To me receiving it was standing against evil. When complaints came in after airing a radio program on it, I studied it more carefully and saw it was wrong. ..."28. 

Even the most undiscerning should recognize that the upside down cross is used in satanic symbolism, used in satanic necklaces, on satanic altars and is a mockery and rejection of Jesus Christ. Receiving a mark on the forehead has nothing to do with 'standing against evil'. In the Scriptures, taking a mark on the forehead is related to taking the mark of the beast.

Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Concerning Michael Rood in 2001, Johnson stated:

....Now concerning Michael Rood. First of all, even if Rood has some ideas that are different than others, Bunker is out of order in criticizing him, just as he is out of order attacking me. ...Rood was one of our most popular speakers. Still to this day we have people call and want more information from Rood...We endeavor to keep information given to our supporters accurate as the agreement with our speakers states. We say if you can't prove it, you can't say it. Here is the problem with what Michael Bunker is doing. He is trying to tear down Bill Deagle and Michael Rood when that is not his place..." 29

Stan Johnson apparently needs to actually apply the statement, "We say if you can't prove it, you can't say it."

In spring 2004, Stan Johnson wrote an article titled, Michael Rood -Bridging America and Israel. It was based on a supposed dream given to Stan Johnson by the Lord, whereby he regretted not continuing his support of Michael Rood after 2000 and now felt that the message Michael Rood has is from God and should be fully supported.

Michael Rood is promoted by Johnson as a "Messianic Jewish Rabbi".  Actually Michael Rood is a Gentile turned Karaite Jew, which should go against the beliefs of Stan Johnson and the Prophecy Club. But, as with many who claim to follow Jesus Christ and make declarative statements about that, the inerrancy of Word of God, the deity of Christ and so on, those things appear to be easily set aside for every wind of doctrine.

Due to Rood's teaching Stan Johnson was concerned about the true name of God, according to him, that being Yahweh, and for Jesus, he wrote Yashua and then Yahshua--which is not found anywhere in the Scriptures. It is a made up name. In his interpretation of the 2004 'dream', Mr. Johnson wrote,

...In my dream I was with Michael Rood standing on a large mountain overlooking a large valley. In the distance I saw what looked like a railroad. Scanning from left to right I could see a bridge was being built from the large mountain I was standing on across a large river to the other mountain.

Michael pointed and said, "Look at the construction we are doing here in Israel. We’re building a bridge from Israel to America." Over to my right I saw two teams of people ...Interpretation: I believe God was answering my prayer

"Look at the construction we are doing here in Israel. We’re building a bridge from America to Israel." Michael is called by God to build a bridge from America to Israel—to bring Jewish understanding to America and to take the gospel to Israel

I saw two teams of people hammering; Michael has two teams of volunteers. One in Israel and one in America.

Stretching a steel cable across the river to form a bridge. Together they are bringing needed Jewish understanding to America and the gospel to Israel

...Represents the first time Michael was on tour with The Prophecy Club®. I could have grabbed the understanding then, but was not ready to receive it...

Fell back toward me. This second tour is the second opportunity for me to grasp the understanding.

...I swung at it with a stick I had in my hand ...it was slightly bent from my hitting it and knocking it up hill. I think this represents comments I made on the radio that hurt bringing this truth to America. Comments like against "going overboard with all this Jewish stuff." Which to a degree is correct. We are to win Jews to Jesus, not Christians to become Jews and go back under the law. ...we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. ...

...However, God is bringing us truth through Michael Rood... Michael’s heart is to bring truth to God’s people..

...I think the Lord is simply explaining that Michael Rood is called to bridge America and Israel and bring truths in both cultures together, and God is in Michael’s ministry. As for me and my house we will serve the Lord. So I will do all I can to help Michael with his call from God and I believe Michael will also help this ministry with its call..." 30

He went on to promote Michael Rood's speaking tour, including the display of "an ancient Torah scroll that was smuggled out of Iraq", "where we are in relation to God’s time clock and the fulfillment of the Feasts of the LORD", "how Zechariah’s thermonuclear war fits into the Endtime scenario", and so on.

Where does one start with Michael Rood's un-provable statements, failed predictions, errant scholarship and clear disregard to fact? For example: Michael Rood Teachings >Changing the Word of God > the skirt of the Jew; out of Zion; Changing the Word of God by free-translating (MIV); Changing the Word of God, Old Testament: Zechariah's Thermonuclear War and so many more examples like, The Creator's Calendar and the Restoration of All Things And Raiders of the Lost Book: New Discoveries in the Hebrew Text of Matthew 

As an aside, Michael Rood has sent out a plea for money again in his March 2006 newsletter, this time asking for almost $1,000,000 to support his ministry. In that plea, which was loaded with the military jargon, too exciting to be true scenarios and events, the claim was that his earlier series The 70th Week Ministry of Messiah originally recorded in 1998, needed to be made for television. In that newsletter and also on his michaelrood.com website promotion, which varied in wording and content, it was noted that, "To this end, The Rood Crew is teaming up with IMS Productions of Colorado Springs" and:

"...What makes “70 Weeks” so important (and controversial), is that for the first time the Gospels are being told from a Hebraic, chronological perspective. ...

"In this series, we are going to bring “The Mystery of Iniquity” up to date and take the audience into the Book of Revelation to understand “The things which must come to pass” before the Messiah returns.  We will dig deep into the Ancient Hebrew version of the Book of Matthew, which many of you have been clamoring for more detail on, as we bring out incredible truths to which we have only alluded in our landmark production “Raiders of the Lost Book”.  In the “70 Weeks” television and DVD series I am going to lay down the foundations of the Gospel that has never been declared in the Western Christian world of replacement theology – the Gospel of the Kingdom – the Gospel that Y’shua taught and how he taught it.  This is going to shake the audience to their core and I believe that it has the potential to bring repentance on a global scale..." 31

This writer has reviewed and discussed many of these claims in earlier articles which can be viewed here: Michael Rood. The gospel of Jesus Christ has not been hidden, nor have the foundations of the Gospel been missing. The Ancient Hebrew Matthew being promoted was written by an unbeliever trying to turn Jewish believers away from Christ, and does not hold any new message, new 'truths', nor was it hidden until 'just discovered' by Michael Rood and Nehemiah Gordon. In this "version" of Matthew, it is taught that preaching the gospel to the gentiles is of the anti-christ.  We are reminded.

2 Cor. 4:1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; 2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Update December 2007 >

2007 proved to be a banner year in the continuing saga of Michael John Rood and A Rood Awakening! Ministries. Rocked with controversy, accusations of illegal activity, hostility, lust for power and wealth, a power struggle between key personalities came to light after Michael Rood's May 31, 2007 email speaking of Jamie Louis taking a sabbatical. Michael Rood's decision to remain in the United States and embark on a "bolder vision" for A Rood Awakening! Ministries  was presented in that initial letter which set events in motion which split staff, friends and supporters into two camps. One held by Michael Rood and one held by Jamie Louis, administrator of A Rood Awakening! Ministries. The A Rood Awakening! Ministries Advisory Board and others who stood with Jamie Louis included, Michael Detwiler, Don Visser, Perry Challender, Angie Bishop and others.

By August the wagons were circled so to speak, as public statements were read across the internet. Jamie Louis and those standing with him in the original A Rood Awakening!! Ministries, waited on a selected panel of "judges" to determine what should be done. Michael Rood and his supporters started a new corporation in Michigan, which was filed August 6, 2007, and naming it A Rood Awakening! Ministries! International. Michael stated on those corporation papers that his residence was in Israel. His staff now included, Glenn McWilliams, Don and Pam Harris, Charles Barrett and others.

Two new websites were launched by the Rood camp, one called reallyrood.com in competition with the original aroodawakening.tv, unroododespertar.tv and aroodawakening.com, all of which have since been shut down. The new michaelroodministries.com was launched in direct competition to the original michaelrood.com, which has been shutdown. Jamie Louis also included in his Ya'akovlevi site the name of a new business called Torah to the Nations, based in Oregon. On December 14, 2007, Michael Rood's Michigan attorney's filed lawsuit against Jamie Louis. For more on this See: A Real Michael Rood Awakening Concerning Alleged Torah Observant Activities

It is noteworthy that Perry Challender had registered a website called TorahtotheNations.com, which merely housed a link to MichaelRood.com. He has also been the registrar and/or administrative contact for MichaelRood.com, for  Jamie Louis's Yaakovlevi.com, YLF.info, for Don Visser's site, dandmservice.com and so on.

Stan Johnson wrote a letter to what appears to be Jamie Louis, which was posted on reallyrood.com, stating he stood with Michael Rood and people were going to be cursed for going against God's anointed minister. Johnson claims that Michael Rood has a direct ministry from God, (as does he), and all others are not to question him but are there to serve him. According to Johnson, it did not matter if Rood was offensive, behaving in ungodly ways or involved in illegal activities, no one should doubt or question Michael Rood's ministry.

"It doesn't matter what Michael has done, or not done.... Michael is the speaker and minister, the ministry cannot do without Michael. Michael is responsible to God to do what he is told, and to handle what money, or messages may be given to him. Michael reports to God and none other.... Let's take a worst-case scenario. Let's say Michael made $300,000 on a speaking tour, and decided to buy himself a nice house with it. Let's say some don't like that. Their ONLY recourse is to LEAVE the ministry...Otherwise he may spend it as he sees fit...If you want to continue to be blessed by God you must agree to this..." [www.reallyrood.com/Stan.html.]

A second letter to Michael Rood, titled, A personal letter with truth for all... was also posted at the reallyrood.com website. In it Stan Johnson, who claims to be an Apostle, wrote:

"...You, Michael have a DIRECT ministry. You don’t have a choice, and you know it. ...I call it a “DIRECT ministry.” When a person is given a direct ministry, they report directly to God. They are directly responsible to do as they are told. ...You heard the voice of God. There may be other reasons, but that one incident proves you are a “sent one.” You have a DIRECT call from God.

[Barnabas'] ministry was to MINISTER TO PAUL, and as long as he was with Paul God used him powerfully. After he walked away from Paul you never hear of him again.

The same thing is true with these people who have come against you. Their ministry was to hold up your arms. To be your armor bearer. To minister to the minister. Not to dominate you, or tell you what to do, or to “run the show.” They were to be blessed BECAUSE they blessed you. When they stopped blessing you, they stopped receiving their blessings, and in the Kingdom of God there is no middle ground. Either we are blessed, or cursed...Either you are have a part with God, or you don’t.

...There is only one hope to remove God’s curse upon them, that is to return what was stolen, and repent before you, and ask your forgiveness. Upon which you will forgive them and pray God removes the curse, as Moses asked God to remove the leprosy from Miriam.

You carry the anointing, the message and the ministry. Those who are wise will continue to be loyal and serve you, and like God gave Elijah’s anointing to Elisha, and God gave Moses’s anointing to Joshua, you can pray God will give ministries to those who have served you faithfully.

That is the truth. That is the way the Kingdom of God works...."[www.reallyrood.com/Stan.html.]

Forgotten are the following Scriptures:

Mark 9:35 And he sat down, and called the twelve, and saith unto them, If any man desire to be first, the same shall be last of all, and servant of all.

Matthew 23:12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted

John 5:44 Jesus said: "How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only

Phil 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.  

On November 9th, the "investigation" by the panel was completed and posted at a new website called, areallyrudeawakening.com. On December 6th, Stan Johnson revoked his above statements and sent an email to his followers. In that email he stated he had asked Michael Rood to remove his letters from his reallyrood.com website. They have been pulled as of the time of this writing, December 27, 2007.

In the letter, Stan Johnson recounts how Michael Rood had called him and said that "his right hand man was taking money from his ministry, and in fact, had stolen his ministry because he did not like some of the things Michael had done. " Affirming that the above mentioned support letters were still true concerning the relationship of a helper of a ministry, and if not liking what is done they should leave the ministry, but shouldn't destroy the ministry. He went on by stating that no one should read the investigation results, and not only was he not going to say anything to any parties involved but, discouraged his followers from being involved in the issues at all:

"After a lengthy investigation into the matter in Michael Rood’s ministry, by an impartial group of other ministries, some inaccuracies have come to light, which I am not going to comment on....I did send out an email blast to our update list and did allow Michael to post a letter from me outlining this point of order to his website. Therefore, now to the degree that I have involved myself, I must now, regretfully, address it. I have asked Michel to remove my letter from his website....I am simply going to point you to the findings of the independent committee, discourage you from going there,...

I am going to ask you as well, not to get involved in the airing of any dirty laundry that you don’t have a reason to be involved. In my opinion, the only reason for you to get involved would be if you plan on supporting the ministry of Michael Rood in the future; then you may want to click on the link below and read until the thing makes you sick.... Let me say that again: I strongly recommend you NOT go to the link below. Do not trouble yourself with negative remarks about another member of the body of Christ....I am sorry I sent a letter to Michael or an email blast on the subject. I am sorry I got involved and recommend you avoid it. While we are on the subject, I want you to know The Prophecy Club does things right..."

Apparently Apostle Stan Johnson's prophetic and direct link to heaven was more than a little skewed as one peruses his prior letters of support and admonition towards any that would dare to challenge Michael Rood's actions as well as his written word, to his now recanting and apologizing his support for Rood and his involvement at all. Perhaps his discernment concerning Michael Rood is equal to that of all the failed prophecies he has promoted as well as equal to his discernment  in regards to taking the mark of an upside down cross on the forehead and promoting it with, "To me receiving it was standing against evil". Matthew 7:15-23

God's anointed is not Michael Rood. [1 Chronicles 16:22]  Apparently the scriptures are almost unknown to many who claim to be "God's ministers" or "God's anointed." But then, the prerequisite for being someone to listen to in many minds is they just have to feed "those itching ears." [see also 2 Timothy 4:3-4; 5:19-21, 1 Timothy 3, Titus 1:5-9, Luke 16:13-15; Galatians 5:22-26; James 3:17; James 2:3-10]

In a rebuke of Stan Johnson's initial support letters, a response was posted from the Louis camp, showing total disdain for the so-called support by  Johnson. In the height of hypocrisy, the question was asked,

"Are the Torah observant "Messianic" followers of A Rood Awakening! impressed by the support of a man who celebrates pagan sun-god holidays and promotes those who do likewise." http://www.yaakovlevi.com/Stan%20Stands%20with%20Michael.pdf

It certainly didn't seem to bother anyone up until that point. It is more than a little ironic, since Jamie Louis promoted Michael Rood to the Prophecy Club and since Don Visser worked in the Prophecy Club offices. In fact, this writer noted in these Prophecy Club articles Stan Johnson's continued support and promotion of Michael Rood. Of course, Stan Johnson also stated that the best prophets were false prophets.

Here is how Michael Rood has spoken of Stan Johnson, and the pagan Christians he met:

"...Just four days after the last Prophecy Club meeting,....I felt compelled to again address the saints that I met on the Prophecy Club tour concerning these issues, but the Prophecy Club monthly meetings were no longer extant. Jamie called Don Visser at the Prophecy Club headquarters and found that they too had desired for me to do a singular tour concerning the same issues that had been burning in me....Also, call Stan Johnson (785) 266-1112 at the Prophecy Club and encourage him to send me back to your area.  He will listen to you...I will be in Topeka with Henry Gruver and Michael Coffman for an “Intelligence Briefing” at the Prophecy Club headquarters in Topeka, Kansas on January 20th...At the end of the 3rd Prophecy Club tour this last July,... " [Michael John Rood >ELIJAH’S SINAI REDISCOVERED! OR ONE MORE TIME AROUND THE MOUNTAIN Marheshwan 22, (corrected) December 19, 2000>http://6001.com/mountain.htm]

The response letter from the Louis camp went on to say:

"...What would really impress people is if Michael Rood had the support of even ONE well known national or international Messianic Congregational leader or Torah teacher. JUST ONE! "..." http://www.yaakovlevi.com/Stan%20Stands%20with%20Michael.pdf

Nothing has changed with that scenario simply because of this shameful display of 'torah obedience'. Most Messianic Jews view Michael Rood's TwoHouse/Ephraimite/Way Intl./western gentile minds/no Greek manuscripts/Christian pagans and other teachings as heresy or unsubstantiated speculation. More on that here.

It is some of the less discerning pagan christians who in the past have opened their doors, their tithes and offerings, and a media platform to Michael Rood,  and they likely will continue to do so in the future.

Y2K Failures and The Prophecy Club Change in Direction

After all the failed predictions by the various speakers, concerning Y2K and the American economic collapse, etc., which many benefited from with book or video sales prior to the failed predictions, in Stan Johnson's March-April 2000 Newsletter, he stated,

"...In case you were surprised after Y2k "appeared" to be nothing, so was I!...So, I was wrong! I honestly thought something would happen on Y2k. I went home and turned on the VCR taping every minute so I would not miss whatever happened. My wife had been saying for two months that NOTHING will happen. She said everyone is watching and they are not going to report it if a problem were to come up. I said, I can't see how we can go around the 24 hour clock with nothing happening. Of course, now we have discovered what really happened, and I had to say those three words we hate to say. "You, were right!" Then she said the three words we hate to hear. "I told you!"

I realize many of you did your best to warn those asleep around you of the impending Y2k judgment day. Then you were laughed at and mocked when it was not as bad as our best information indicated it would be. ...The next time we try to warn the sleeping masses it will be all the more difficult to get them to listen. ...All the watchmen who did their best to warn loved ones have lost some credibility. In the case of Christian ministries, they will lose much of their support. We have had to call for emergency donations-only the third time in almost seven years have had to do so. I have also cancelled all airtime in the red, which totaled to about 20% of the airtime. Attendance across the nation at The Prophecy Club® meetings was 40% below normal...."

...When Dr. Mark Andrews and General Ed Wheeler reported the Y2k problem 18 months ago, it was a real problem. Where we watchmen went wrong is underestimating the amount repaired, and the ability of the media to cover what few problems did come up. And of course, we now know that there were problems. When there was a problem, the last thing anyone did was say it was Y2k related. How do you explain the fact that third-world countries which had massive Y2k bugs had no problems? Only one answer. God gave the world some more time!..." 32

That was followed with Sept-Oct, 2000 article, " I Apologize for Taking Advantage of You Concerning Y2K", where Stan Johnson apologized for taking advantage of people concerning Y2K, at the urging of one of his associates, Gene Bacon. Using a saying of Dale Carnegie instead of Scripture to validate the need to apologize, he also complained:

"...James Lloyd wants me to tell you that Tom and Bill are false prophets, but I distinctly remember the nudge from the Lord telling me to put them on tour. Please note that many people were saved at their meetings. Were they false prophets? No. They, like me, and like all of us, see through a glass darkly and sometimes get in the flesh and make mistakes. After consulting with Gene, we both agreed that they should not be called false prophets. I disagree with many things our speakers have said; such as Tom Van Asperen telling people to leave America, and Bill Deagle telling people he was one of the two witnesses, the 24th Elder and had been given the mantle of Moses. These are statements done out of the flesh. We have all thought we heard from God to discover later we didn't.

I apologize for all hurts, mistakes or damages our speakers may have made. Perhaps God should have never started The Prophecy Club ® . Maybe the Pastors are right. Maybe this is just a crazy ministry of wackos. I personally know God started it, protected it, prospered it ..." 33

Actually, because of the awareness within the technological industry, with computers and other machines, fixes were made and repairs made to avoid potential Y2K problems, really no different than when issues arise with computer programs today. Upgrades, patches and fixes. It's part of the industry. Many corporations, including utility corporations, took precautions not just on New Year's eve, but prior and for a time after, to make sure the repairs worked. Why would they panic people with talk of possible failure when many, many employees were called to work hard to counter any perceived problems in these industries?

Using common sense may mean people take precautions, as needs are evident in the many disasters world wide. But false predictions and date setting cannot be a part of our decisions or obedience to the Lord. We're to be anxious for nothing, and Jesus Himself said there would be wars and rumors of wars, earthquakes, false christs and much more and we are not to be moved from our daily focus on developing our relationship with Him and obedience to Him.

The ones who seemed panicked and afraid, even of events happening today, with some to the point of terror, were those claiming to believe that God would take care of them, and instead listened to the Prophecy Club's and many other failed predictions. Forgotten are these Scriptures, even apparently by those involved in The Prophecy Club:

2 Timothy 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
8 Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God;

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

One does not need to speculate, as one merely needs to read the Scriptures to know that God's judgment is coming on ALL mankind, not just America. Things are going to happen. We're to be about His business. There is nothing that suggests that God started The Prophecy Club, and Stan Johnson is listed as the founder.

Stan Johnson also stated,

"...The Prophecy Club® has been criticized in the past for not pointing out error on the part of speakers. In response to those requests, we are no longer going to keep silent if one of our speakers steps into error. I will still maintain the policy of not criticizing God's ministries. Only in cases where the speaker has reached the point of harming those in the Lord or harming the mission of this ministry will I do so. Some have turned away their support of this ministry because they assumed that because we did not speak up when error was found, we agreed with it-which is not the case. We do disagree with speakers who move into error, and seek truth as you do. We will not criticize speakers publicly until we have followed the directives of Matthew 18:15-17. I do not believe Jesus wants us to air Christian problems in public until they have refused to hear in private...." 34

Every false prophecy, every false prophet, failed prediction or vision done as a presentation of ' Biblical prophecy' or 'thus saith the Lord', every failed date setting on prophecy to be fulfilled, the inexcusably errant scholarship with claims of proficiency, every denial of the person of Jesus Christ and every rejection of the authenticity of the Scriptures (as with Michael Rood), every promotion of false doctrine and so on brings harm and shame to the Body of Christ. Promotion of false prophets is not Biblical. And that is the bottom line. Regarding the harm and irreparable damage date setting does, please see Date Setting Hypocrisy.

After all the failures of Y2K, the apologies, the launching of the Spirit of Prophecy churches, the change from 'being a salesman' to being a minister, in his April/May 2001 Newsletter, "Letter from the Founder: The New Direction" Stan Johnson again lamented over the Y2K failures and claimed that God repaired the computers, and delayed judgment. From that, as in 2000, he claimed that God was taking them in a new direction, and that there would no longer be judgment warnings but rather, there was going to be a revival in America. He went so far as to suggest that not only was judgment delayed, it maybe has been stayed.

Referring to 1999, he wrote:

"...At the time I was sure there was no turning around, delaying or stopping the prophesied judgment on America—the Russian surprise submarine launch of nuclear bombs on America. God is more forgiving than we could possibly imagine.

...Around October of 1999, I noticed a subtle change in the warnings coming from the Prophets—it stopped. I thought we would hear some more soon, but we didn’t. In June of 1993, when The Prophecy Club® first began broadcasting information on judgment; the Russians will attack, the New World Order, black helicopters and such, was almost nonexistent in America.

..By mid 1998 to early 1999,... Prophets across the country and some from foreign countries were screaming the warning—God is about to judge America. ...

...It was about then when I was approached about the Y2K problem. The computers are going to crash they said! ...

..All of a sudden, just prior to Y2K, the warnings stopped. ..At the time, understandably, the same national news programs that had joined us blowing the trumpet now changed their mind. They were saying Y2K was repaired. The Y2K experts, whom I was in contact with, did not buy it...." 35

It might not seem so surprising to see these 'prophecies' all coming to a halt in late 1999. The occult also saw nothing after the end of 1999/2000. May 5, 2000 was the New Age belief that when all of the planets were in alignment there was to be a "cosmic moment" which announced the coming of the Messiah, and it was to be the Day of Judgment. 

In his lengthy discourse, Stan Johnson went on to state that the decline in favor and funding after the failure of the Y2K fiasco caused bad feelings, and instead of cursing the prophets, people should have thanked them, which rather removes the idea of the need for any apology by him. The fault became the unforgiving Christians who called them false prophets: [Bolding added]

"...As time went on, our response to the warning message continued to drop. On January 1, 2000, when the national news reported there was no problem—and did so in a way almost mocking those who were expecting trouble—we saw a nose dive in response to our program. ...

...support was supernaturally dropping. Some scoffers cursed the ministry and hoped it would die, but I knew better. I knew God had always held it up...

Some were saying it was the speakers we had. I will agree there were five, out of the 100 speakers, I regret ever putting on tour. But if you think about it for a minute, a 95% success rate is excellent! ...

...I still believe everyone of the speakers, save one, was supposed to be on tour. I did not agree with everything they said, but I knew God gave them the opportunity to speak. Some just dropped the ball and let their flesh get in the way. What we were supposed to do is find the truth God put in the speaker and throw the rest away. ... so some people expected the flesh and error to be removed for them, and got mad when they discovered it wasn’t. Speakers, good or bad, were not the reason response dropped. God was sustaining the ministry through difficult times. The response of the people is totally controlled by God. The response was NOT dropping because of anything I, The Prophecy Club® or a speaker did or did not do. God was in control...

...Thousands of people were offended in the spirit when we warned them of the potential Y2K problem and it did not occur. In the spirit there was a great offense

...They expected a national prophetic warning ministry to give them the truth. ... Y2K did not happen like we said, nor to the degree we said. I believe God gave the world a great deliverance.

...God’s people should have thanked the watchmen for their bravery and efforts to warn them. They should have praised God for supernaturally repairing the computers. Instead, they called them false prophets and spiritually stoned them and cursed them. Thousands walked away from this ministry wagging their heads." 36  

Johnson reasoned that the ministry slid and support declined because they needed to change direction. And it was God ordained, just as all the failed prophecies and visions were to be believed as being 'thus saith the Lord,' the change in direction would bring "a better ministry" and "a bigger ministry".

".... I just wanted to warn people of the coming judgment, but that apparently had changed. I believe the Power of Jesus Crusades! will grow far bigger and reach more people with a deeper impact than The Prophecy Club®."  37

Further 'prophecies' told him that judgment was delayed, no more warnings were to be given as revival was in America: [Bolding added]

"...Gene Bacon came forward with a prophecy... It seemed to be indicating revival was coming—no mention of judgment...In early February 2001, an idea came to my heart. What if judgment has been delayed? What if the reason God stopped telling His prophets that judgment was coming was because it had been delayed? What if He stopped the meetings and was allowing our response to drop because judgment was delayed? What if the message was received and enough people prayed and repented to delay the Russian attack? I began to ponder the idea. God seemed to lay something even stronger on my heart. "Don’t tell my people judgment is imminent any more," was what I kept getting in my spirit. I will not guarantee it is from God, I am NOT saying, "Thus saith the Lord." I am simply talking to you friend to friend. It was what I was feeling in my heart.

...To totally believe judgment has been delayed, I would need more convincing which I have not received. I don’t have enough information to convince me that judgment has been delayed. It would be very dangerous to God’s people to say that if it were not true.

...I could just hear scoffers saying, "Well, the false prophecy club is covering for its lies! When Russia does not attack, now they conveniently tell me it is just not coming because God has delayed it!" But, I know God has been supporting The Prophecy Club® all the way" 38   

Setting aside any possible conclusion of false prophesy, and hence false prophets, he then wrote, that 'the best prophet may be a false prophet' and asked: [Bolding, color added]

...In exactly SEVEN YEARS (June 1993 to June 2000) The Prophecy Club® hosted around 100 speakers. ...Are we going to believe that all 100 speakers were false prophets? Are we so unfamiliar with God and how He controls everything to think He would allow a ministry to prosper for seven years by putting out false information and lying to His people?

...Each month we would get from one to three new speakers to put on tour. Then in June of 2000, EXACTLY SEVEN YEARS from the start of The Prophecy Club®, it stopped. I mean, no more new speakers.

...The best prophet may be a false prophet...Apparently what happened is the warning of judgment, combined with the threat of Y2K, put enough people repenting and praying to delay the judgment...

..Henry Gruver saw a vision in 1985 of submarines attacking America...

...I said a minister cannot stand in front of God’s people and tell them judgment is coming unless he is totally convinced that it is coming. I said, "Henry, you aren’t totally convinced anymore, are you?" He said, "Well??................I will have to pray about it." 39 

Referring to Dumitru Duduman's prophecy and visions which he firmly believed showed the timeline for the destruction of America, Stan Johnson stated in this 2001 newsletter that it was possible that not only was judgment of America delayed, but it was possible that God had stayed the Biblically declared judgments: [Bolding added]

"...The sign posts said judgment four pages, judgment three pages, judgment one page. Now we are almost a year past the last sign post and have not seen the city, nor seen the judgment. I think it is safe to say some kind of delay has occurred. What kind of delay or how long God will delay it, I don’t know. The big question is, "Has the judgment been stayed?" Not just delayed, but stayed?" 40

Reiterating the change in direction for the Prophecy Club, showing the need for donations, Stan Johnson again supported his claim of revival, only for America, by those same prophets who were before, in many cases, claiming the destruction of America would have taken place by then: [Bolding added]

"...the bottom line is this. God has changed directions in The Prophecy Club® from a sales based ministry, supplemented with donations, to a donation based ministry, supplemented with sales; from blasting the judgment is imminent warning to a more toned down message exposing evil, Bible prophecy and updating previous messages. He has raised up the Power of Jesus Crusades to teach, train and equip the saints to walk in power and victory. God is forming an army of power-filled saints to battle the darkness. God is bringing revival to the land. I do not think this is the worldwide revival. I believe, as you can read for yourselves, in the prophecies in this newsletter. The prophets are now saying revival has hit the land. I believe this is a revival for America. There have been pockets here and there, but the prophets say this is the long-awaited revival for America—not the worldwide revival—just for America...." 41

The Scriptures remind us:

Jeremiah 14:13 Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them, Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place.
14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.
15 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

1 Thes 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

After all the talk about changed directions, the seminars, speakers and meetings began again in 2002, with some speakers dropped, or rather they discontinued with the Prophecy Club, and with more getting on board.

We see in 2004, 2005 those old prophecies by Duduman and Henry Gruver were again brought up under the title, "Russia will attack and defeat America unless she repents". The reason for the focus on the attacks and destruction by submarine attacks, was summed up in one line, following the two summaries of their prophecies. That line was, "Will you help The Prophecy Club warn America with your financial support and prayers?" 42

 

Scriptural Warnings

To suggest that God's judgment is stayed or even delayed is to ignore many verses. The warnings have always been in the Scriptures and cannot be denied.

1 Thes 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. 8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

Paul urged Titus to speak the things that “become sound doctrine,” and to “Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work.” Titus 3:1 See also: 1 Peter 2:13-17; 2 Peter 2:9-22

Does this even come close to what is being taught by these “discernment prophets”???

Mt 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

 

Previous section: The Prophecy Club & Elijah covers:

Al Cuppett & The Elijah Sightings

Elijah's Arrival

The Prophecy Club Insights

The Prophecy Club Speakers

The Prophecy Club Teachings

Failed Prophecies of The Prophecy Club

Importance of Dumitru Duduman

 

Next Section:  The Alnor Review

 

Footnotes

22b COG members, others, preparing to flee by Bill Stough http://ci.marshall.tx.us/sites/SiteLand-Niue/thejournal/articles/issue27/fleeing.html; Issue No. 27 April 30, 1999 http://www.thejournal.org/apr99.html

23. 1999 > twicespeak.com/links/links.com > www.twicespeak.com/links/links_to_other_ministries_and_si.htm

24. http://www.michaelrood.com/news_sp45.htm

25. Feast of Trumpets, Mark Aaron Robinson, http://www.michaelrood.com/news_sp25.htm

26. http://lazarusunbound.com/bunker_prophecyclubstory.shtml

27-29  September 2001  9/5/01 http://lazarusunbound.com/bunker_stanstrikesback.shtml

30. http://www.prophecyclub.com/article_2004_march-april.htm

31. michaelrood.com >The 70 Week Ministry of Messiah http://www.aroodawakening.tv/70week/ > http://www.aroodawakening.tv/70week/70-Week-Intro-Transcript.htm

32.  March/April 2000 Newsletter Articles : Letter from the Founder  www.prophecyclub.com/text2/mar00.htm

33.   September/October 2000 Newsletter: Letter from the Founder       http://www.prophecyclub.com/article_2000_sept-oct_02.htm

34. March/April 2000 Newsletter Articles : Letter from the Founder  www.prophecyclub.com/text2/mar00.htm

35-41 http://www.prophecyclub.com/april01/april01.htm

42. www.prophecyclub.com/feature_01.htm

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