Subject: Re: Knowing Those Who Labour
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:29:35 -0500
From: Robert S Liichow <bliichow@juno.com>

When time permits I will be glad to answer your questions. I would like to know what/where your web site is located and what the responses have been so far.

Rev. B Liichow
http://www.discernment.org

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Sat, 17 Jun 2000 22:29:01 -1000

"mike oppenheimer" <administrator@letusreason.org>

Greetings, the survey looks interesting and to the point on some of
the questions,Some i'm not sure how i would answer right
off hand as they seem to be only yes or no. before i would participate
,could you please tell me who you are representing&nbsp; and
the purpose of publishing these question on the internet and would
you share your filled out survey.
The reason i ask is because i have had several surveys sent and one
person was wanting to divide cult reserch/apologetic
groups and ministries. So it would be helpful to know your website
and what you stand for as well.
Thank you
mike

mike oppenheimer wrote:

> Greetings,you say "I represent no one but a believer wanting to know
> what various ministries believe on the asked doctrinal questions" if this
> is so why did i receive letters warning about you? this doesn't sound
> like a personal inquiry at all. peopel are saying that you are not as
> sincere as you make yourself. that you are the cause of false circulation
> of info on Jacob prasch, is this so?you atate"But we, along with many
> other lay people, are looking for sincere Christians who love the Lord
> Jesus Christ with all their hearts, minds and souls. "does this mean if i
> disagree with you i'm not a sincere Christian or anyone else for that
> matter?our beliefs are posted on our site for all to see so i woul d not
> need you to have people determine whether to pursue us as a viable
> ministry. they can look at our site to determine this. as a far as certain
> questions they are not part of the core teachings of Christianity and
> would do no good to polarize each other by them (such as once saved always
> saved.) look forward to a returned answerthank you

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Sat, 24 Jun 2000 09:56:32 -0400

From: "Pastor Dick" <PastorDick@ChristRing.org>

Greetings in the Name of Jesus!

Thank you for your request regarding our ministries. Much of what you
are asking about us can be found on our websites at http://christring.org and http://cyber-church.com including our Statement of Faith and Mission statements.

Before we take the time to answer your very detailed questionnaire we would like to have more information regarding your identity and the purposes to which it will
be used. If you have a website where this material will be posted, please send us the url so we can look at it to determine if you and your requests are legitimate. Please understand that ChristRing Ministries is open as to our beliefs and teachings (most of them are on our sites) but we also must be prudent regarding this type of blanket
request.
Thank you again for your interest in ChristRing Ministries and Cyber-Church.com

From: "Pastor Dick"

Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:29:19 -0400
From: Webmaster <acts0412@jesus-messiah.com>

Dear Sister:

I thought the questions were clearly designed "against" tongues, gifts,
miracles, and even being Messianic according to first century identity.
But, in saying I believe in all of these, I also teach that the false
prophet who anoints or who announces the coming Jewish antichrist, will
also use his miracle-working power to deceive the elect. He will even call
fire down from heaven perhaps like Elijah on an animal sacrifice to prove
he is the Elijah for to come. He is allowed to this in the presence of the
Beast, the Jewish antichrist. So, you are on the right track in my opinion
about being fearful of the Charismatic movement following these "miracle
and gift workers" because it sets them up to accept the false prophet and
the antichrist. Especially when the majority of those within the
Charismatic movement are dispensationalist and believe the Jews have a
separate deal through the promise of Abraham and can be saved without faith
in Jesus Christ. But please make a distinction between that which is
genuine as among the Apostles and early Christians and even those at that
time who performed miracles, spoke in false tongues (Montanus etc.), and
who claimed to be the special "new" elect. Where there is a true there is
always a counterfit. Using the counterfit is in my opinion what will
deceive those who are not doctrinally SOUND. Which appeared to be one of
your main concerns. I view the same problems from a different view point.

...I was not offended at your questions. They gave me an opportunity to
explain in part what I as a Minister promote. We may disagree, but why
should I be ashamed if I feel these are truths. Why conceal from others
what I believe? I refuse to do so.

To me the ultimate goal of the HRM is to destroy Christianity in all forms
and return Christians back under the Law using new methods and arguments never encounter before. I am ready for that onslaught and have already debated the Yahweh's several times about their law-keeping and their substitution of the guess name Yahshua for Jesus. I am supposed to debateanother Yahweh group in November in Tennessee. It gives me great delight to not only defend the name of Jesus, but at the same time to expose those who attend these debates with information about the satanic Kaballah and Talmud which those in the HRM not only believe and rely upon, they quote for doctrine.

Pastor Reckart

PS And yes I am already labeled antisemite. One Jewish lady said she would report me to the Simon Wisenthal Center as a Jew hater because I said no Jew could be saved or would be saved unless they believed Jesus was the Messiah come in the flesh, the first resiquite of faith-grace salvation.
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 Dear Pastor Reckart,

 Thank you so much for the well-thought out responses. Yes, it was
 difficult to word the questions to accommodate all the varied beliefs,
 but your clarifications are excellent. ...
 Thanks again for your time.
 Victoria Dillen

+++For an in-depth discussion from a reader about the various Names, please see: Yahshua, Yehoshua, Y'shua, Yeshua, Iesous, Iesus, or Jesus The Sacred Name or True Name

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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 10:42:56 -0500
From: "randal

Well, I tried to answer these..felt like I was on the rack a time or two....HA HA...

Hope you don't consider me a heretic after you read these answers...

I have changed my positions on most of these things over time and prayer and
time in the word, and I suppose this to be true of all others, but sometimes find it is not.

Historically, how do we defend altar calls and the sinner's prayer? But we accept it as DOCTRINE.

But, hey, no soapbox here. Appreciate what you are doing, like I said, V...

the other Randall :-)

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