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Email #1 --from Tom Mitchell
From: Tom Mitchell [tmitchell@tribweb.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:17 AM
Subject: Dr. Trimm, others
Your
site promotes the Scripture verse, “…let no corrupt
communication proceed out of your mouth…” Yet, your
site is full of lashon harah and you call yourselves
“Christian?”
In
case you don’t know it, lashon harah means the evil
tongue. Lashon harah can be communicated by speaking,
writing, or body language. One is guilty of lashon harah
even if what he or she is saying is true. Do a complete
and thorough study of lashon harah, the review your Web
site in the light of what you have learned – then I
might suggest that you get a life. What you re promoting
is NOT in harmony with
Matthew 28:19. You should be ashamed of
yourselves!
Tom
Mitchell
RD6
Box
122A
Kittanning
,
PA
16201
T.
Mitchell
******
My
response to Email #1
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003
6:21 PM
To: Tom Mitchell
Subject: Re: Dr. Trimm, others
Dear
Tom, thank you for writing and expressing your
concerns. However, I don't need to study Lashon
Hara....I receive that from people on a regular
basis...which means nothing.
However,
you seem to have forgotten the Scriptures about try
the spirits, deceivers and deceptions shall wax worse,
we shall know them by their fruit, "they shall
make merchandise of you", vain talkers, be not
deceived, to not be led away to false doctrine or
follow after false teachings...and the cruncher
...1
Timothy 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be
counted worthy of double honour, especially they who
labour in the word and doctrine . . . 19 Against
an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or
three witnesses. 20
Them
that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
21
I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ,
and the elect angels, that
thou observe these things without preferring one
before another, doing nothing by partiality
22 Lay
hands suddenly on no man, neither be partaker of
other men's sins: keep thyself pure . . . 24
Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to
judgment; and some men they follow after.
25 Likewise also the good works of some are
manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise
cannot be hid.
Choose
you this day whom YOU will serve...and if it's James
Trimm or Marshal Moshe Koniuchowsky, or friends,
I recommend you reevaluate what Scriptures you
read...and dump the HRV and ISR...and by the way, the
zohar is not a companion book to the Bible..
Being
Biblically obedient is nothing to be ashamed of...at
least in the Bible I read.
John
14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments....23
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he
will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and
we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings:
and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the
Father's which sent me.
John
15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that
abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth
much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as
a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and
cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
Matthew
3:10 And now also the ax is laid unto the root
of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth
not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the
fire.
Matthew 7: 15 Beware of false prophets, which
come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they
are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men
gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good
fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit,
neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good
fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know
them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord,
Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he
that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
By the
way, no need to respond, but how was the shin dig in
Kansas City ?
-Rabbi
Moshe Yoseph Koniuchowsky-Miami Beach
Florida-confirmed
-Rabbi Ed Levi Nydle-Ottumwa Iowa-confirmed
-Rabbi Mordechai Silver-Las Cruces New
Mexico-confirmed
-Rabbi Eddie Chumney-Strousberg Ohio-confirmed
-Moreh/Teacher Avi Ben Mordechai-Woodland Park
Colorado-confirmed
-Rabbi Web Hulon-Columbia South
Carolina-confirmed
-Rabbi Rob Miller-Temple Texas-confirmed
-Rabbi Rob Gordon-Portland Oregon-confirmed
-Rabbi Yochanan Mascaro-Pensacola
Florida-confirmed
-Rebbetzin Wendy McNulty-Fredericton NB
Canada-confirmed
-Rabbi Asquith Michael-Trinidad-confirmed
-Rabbi Tom
Mitchell-Kittanning Pennsylvania-confirmed
-Rabbi Paul Todd-Titusville
Florida-confirmed
-Cantor Brian Samtur-confirmed
Amos 3:3 Can
two walk together, except they be agreed?
Matthew 23:5 But
all their works they do for to be seen of men: they
make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders
of their garments,
6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and
the chief seats in the synagogues,
7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called
of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
8 But be not ye called
Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye
are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the
earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your
Master, even Christ.
11 But he that is greatest among you shall be
your servant.
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be
abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be
exalted.
13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees,
hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven
against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither
suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees,
hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a
pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive
the greater damnation.
15 Woe unto you, scribes
and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land
to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make
him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
16 Woe unto you, ye blind guides,...
Thanks for writing but
please don't waste your time by further emails.
****
Email # 2 From Tom
Mitchell
From: Tom Mitchell [tmitchell@tribweb.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:24 AM
To: 'Seek God'
Subject: RE: Dr. Trimm, others
Lashon
harah “…means nothing.” ??? Obviously – to you.
You demonstrate your basic attitude of disrespect by
referring to our
Kansas City
conference
as a “shin dig.” You are a most disrespectful woman
and that’s NOT a Scriptural attribute. Did your
parents raise you to be so disrespectful and arrogant,
or did you just evolve into those habits.
“…two
or three witnesses…” yes,
but the witnesses must be CREDIBLE. I can’t speak for
Dr. Trimm, but as for RABBI Moshe Koniuchowski or
friends, (and he is my very good friend and brother in
Messiah, and as for me and my family, we serve Almighty
Yahweh. You speak of being obedient to the Bible –
then re-read your Bible and see what it says about the
evil tongue. I have visited your so-call Web site and it
is nothing but pure lashon harah – with a small
invitation at the bottom to worship the TORAH-LESS
j-e-s-u-s you serve. We serve the TRUE Messiah of
Scripture, The Orthodox, Jewish, Rabbi who had and has a
very Hebrew Name – YAHSHUA! Get a life girl and grow
up. Repent of your witchcrafts and evil speaking, STUDY
the Scriptures you claim to read and open your alleged
mind to learning and quit your evil speaking. Ha-satan
was the accuser of the brethren – so are you – you
are in his company and from your words, he is your
master. You and your cohorts have been on this campaign
against Dr. Trimm and other for more than five years
now, don’t you think it’s time you got on with life
and started fulfilling Matt. 28:19? Your vindictive
attacks are of a purely personal nature and you do not
and cannot attack any of those mentioned from a
doctrinal stance. We will pray for you, that if you have
not committed the unpardonable sin, that Yahweh will
have mercy on you and call you to repentance. Perhaps he
will crush you spiritually so that a true woman can
emerge. And Vicky – YOU OF ALL PEOPLE DO NEED TO STUDY
LASHON HARAH – AN INDEPTH STUDY! [spelling,
bolding and capitals as seen]
Rabbi
Tom
Mitchell
*****
My Response to
Email #2
Sent:
Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:01 PM
To: Tom
Mitchell
Subject:
Re: RE: Dr. Trimm, others
My
dear Tom, you seem to be getting upset and not
understanding what is being said. Lashon hara--being
slandered, gossiped about, falsely accused,
etc...that means nothing to me....
I
said, "However, I don't need to study Lashon
Hara....I receive that from people on a regular
basis...which means nothing."
You
don't seem to understand,
Tom. Jesus very clearly taught the
following, which I realize you reject, but it is what
I abide by.
Matthew
5:10 -11 Blessed are they which are persecuted for
righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of
heaven. Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and
persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil
against you falsely, for my sake
1
Peter 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning
the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some
strange thing happened unto you:
13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of
Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be
revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy
are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth
upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on
your part he is glorified.
1
John 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and
hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light,
and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 11
But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and
walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he
goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
1 John3 :15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a
murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal
life abiding in him.
Lashon hara
appears to be a veil you try to hide behind, so that
who and what you people are about, remains hidden. I
make no apology. I removed the veil and took a peek.
To be completely honest, I'm not real impressed with
what I am seeing. Heresy, blasphemy, occultism, the
merchandising of believers, the lack of respect for
government...the list is quite lengthy.
Being a
Christian does not mean I sit idly by while the name
of my Lord and Savior is pulled through the sewer of
false teachings. In fact, on the contrary, we're
called to stand and stand firm and expose and reprove
the fruitless deeds of darkness...of which you, sadly,
apparently have chosen to partake.
Tom
said---“…two or three witnesses…” yes,
but the witnesses must be CREDIBLE. I can’t speak
for Dr. Trimm, "
You
seem to be lacking information,
Tom. There is NO "Dr. Trimm." There
is a James Trimm, a Mr. Trimm and so on...but no
Doctor Trimm.
Tom
said >>>>but as for RABBI Moshe
Koniuchowski or friends, (and he is my very good
friend and brother in Messiah, and as for me and my
family, we serve Almighty Yahweh."
Tom, I tried to
show you Scripturally why being called RABBI was
wrong. Perhaps, in your obvious zeal, you missed
reading the Scriptures. Allow me to insert them again.
Please take the time to read them, as they are really
rather important for you and your fellow RABBI's.
Jesus said:
Matthew
23:5 But all their works they do for to be seen
of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and
enlarge the borders of their garments,
6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and
the chief seats in the synagogues,
7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called
of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
8 But
be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even
Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9
And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is
your Father, which is in heaven.
10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your
Master, even Christ.
11 But he that is greatest among you shall be
your servant.
12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be
abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be
exalted.
13 But woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the
kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in
yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering
to go in.
14 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees,
hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a
pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive
the greater damnation.
15 Woe
unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when
he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell
than yourselves.
16
Woe unto you, ye blind guides,...
Tom wrote >> You
speak of being obedient to the Bible – then re-read
your Bible and see what it says about the evil tongue.
Tom,
I already tried to explain to you, and I can be
patient. This is what I said..."Choose you this
day whom YOU will serve...and if it's James Trimm or
Marshal Moshe Koniuchowsky, or friends, I
recommend you reevaluate what Scriptures you
read...and dump the HRV and ISR...and by the way, the
zohar is not a companion book to the Bible." You
are not getting accurate information Tom.
Tom
said--- I have visited your so-call Web site and it is
nothing but pure lashon harah – with a small
invitation at the bottom to worship the TORAH-LESS
j-e-s-u-s you serve. "
Thank
you so much for taking the time to read my articles,
Tom. They are loaded with the Word of God and God
promises that His Word will not come back void.
Oh....on
the anti-nomian Jesus that you people want to blot out
and destroy. There seems to be a discrepancy...I
see a controversy developing. I guess you're entitled
to an opinion. It would be better if it were rooted in
Biblical truth and fact.
As
for your assault upon my Lord and Savior Jesus
Christ....
James
2:7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by
the which ye are called?
What
you are doing is actually prophetic.....I suspect you
didn't know that....
Tom
said >>>>We serve the TRUE Messiah of
Scripture, The Orthodox, Jewish, Rabbi who had and has
a very Hebrew Name – YAHSHUA! "
Sorry
to inform you Tom, but the name YAHshua is not found
in the Old Testament. What you will find there
is Yehoshua which many Messianic Jews shorten and use
as Yeshua [salvation]. If you research the name
"YAHshua, you will find that it came about in the
1930's, and was manufactured in error by the
sacred name movement due to their lack of
understanding of the Hebrew language. I would
suggest that you go to the Torah Scrolls in the
original Biblical Hebrew and research it for
yourself, instead of listening to the opinions of
others.
Tom
said>>>Get a life girl and grow up. Repent of
your witchcrafts and evil speaking, STUDY the
Scriptures you claim to read and open your alleged
mind to learning and quit your evil speaking.
Excuse
me, but only my husband calls me "girl." And
simply for your information, we've been happily
married almost 30 years. The partner of one
spouse....something that many in your Rabbi and
"Dr.", and Rood camps cannot claim. Which
flies in the face of, 1
Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless,
the husband of one wife,
vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to
hospitality, apt to teach;
3 Not given to wine, no
striker, not greedy of
filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not
covetous;
4 One that ruleth well his
own house, having his children in subjection
with all gravity;
5 (For if a man know not
how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of
the church of God?)
6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride
he fall into the condemnation of the devil.
As
to the charge of witchcraft and evil speaking...
I'm
pretty sure an occultist
[kabbalist] is not qualified to
determine between good and evil. However God is quite
clear and He calls his people to use His Word to
discern good and evil.
Hebrews
5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful
in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. 14
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full
age, even those who by reason of use have their senses
exercised to discern both good and evil.
Ephesians
2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to
the course of this world, according to the prince of
the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in
the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in
times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the
desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by
nature the children of wrath, even as others.
4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great
love wherewith he loved us,
5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened
us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6
And hath raised us up together, and made us sit
together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Ephesians
5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for
because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon
the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye
light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all
goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful
works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Colossians
3:5 Mortify therefore your members which are
upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate
affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which
is idolatry:
6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh
on the children of disobedience:
7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye
lived in them.
8 But now ye also put off all these; anger,
wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of
your mouth.
9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have
put off the old man with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed
in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew,
circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian,
bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Tom
said>>>Ha-satan was the accuser of the
brethren – so are you – you are in his company and
from your words, he is your master. You and your
cohorts have been on this campaign against Dr. Trimm
and other for more than five years now,"
Tom,
you and Marshall Moshe and friends seem to have a
problem with math. I wrote about the
kabbalists James Trimm, Avi ben Mordechai, etc
in the winter and spring of 1999. It's currently 2003.
Maybe in the place you live that's 5 years....but here
in Canada...it's not. I don't have cohorts, but I
do have brothers and sisters in the Lord who will be
praying for you and your friends.
People
are known by their fruit Tom. And I'm seeing an abundance
of potential fertilizer in what you and your
good buddies are about. Perhaps you'd like to
reconsider your beliefs and align them to the Word of
God.
As
I said previously, " you seem to have forgotten
the Scriptures about try the spirits, deceivers and
deceptions shall wax worse, we shall know them by
their fruit, "they shall make merchandise of
you", vain talkers, be not deceived, to not be
led away to false doctrine or follow after false
teachings...
Tom
said>>>> Your vindictive attacks are
of a purely personal nature and you do not and cannot
attack any of those mentioned from a doctrinal stance.
It is obvious to me, Tom
that you have not fully read my articles. I have made
my statements and supplied documentation to
support them. You and your friends have postured, cried
Lashon Hara, but have failed to supply one speck
or trace, of evidence to refute my claims.
You are
entitled to your opinion, no matter how inaccurate it
is. There's really not a whole lot personal about
reporting facts and statements from a persons own
mouth and published information. However, you are
right...there is a bit of personal nature in
this...and that is, I will fight the good fight as
becomes someone who belongs to Jesus Christ. And if
that means, applying the following...by all means at
my disposal....
1
Timothy 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be
counted worthy of double honour, especially they who
labour in the word and doctrine . . . 19
Against
an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or
three witnesses. 20 Them
that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
21
I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ,
and the elect angels, that
thou observe these things without preferring one
before another, doing nothing by partiality
22
Lay hands suddenly on no man, neither
be partaker of other men's sins: keep
thyself pure . .
Having
set yourself up in spiritual leadership I would
have thought you would have at least attempted to
follow these Scriptures....
2
Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must
not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach,
patient,
25 In meekness instructing those that oppose
themselves; if God peradventure will give them
repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
26 And that they may recover themselves out of
the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him
at his will.
Galatians
6:6:1 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a
fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in
the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou
also be tempted.
James
3:14 But if ye have bitter envying and strife in
your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
15 This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is
earthly, sensual, devilish.
16 For where envying and strife is, there is
confusion and every evil work.
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first
pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be
entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without
partiality, and without hypocrisy.
1
Peter 5:5:1 The elders which are among you I
exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the
sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory
that shall be revealed:
2 Feed the flock of God which is among you,
taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but
willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
3 Neither as being lords over God's heritage,
but being ensamples to the flock.
Tom
said>>>>We will pray for you, that
if you have not committed the unpardonable sin, that
Yahweh will have mercy on you and call you to
repentance. Perhaps he will crush you spiritually so
that a true woman can emerge. And Vicky – YOU OF ALL
PEOPLE DO NEED TO STUDY LASHON HARAH – AN INDEPTH
STUDY!
Rabbi
Tom Mitchell
""
Sorry,
Tom, there is no way I can call you rabbi --that would
be Biblically disobedient. Nor can I view you as
leadership in any way. You have shown you are not.
Tom
said>>And Vicky – YOU OF
ALL PEOPLE DO NEED TO STUDY LASHON HARAH – AN INDEPTH
STUDY
I really don't want to
learn how to do Lashon Hara, Tom. As I said, I get
enough examples sent to me. It's simply not what God
calls us to.
As
for praying, Jesus said, John 14:13 And
whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do,
that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14
If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
I
do Thank you Tom for your concern. I think I will
keep on worshiping My Savior, or the "Torah less
j-e-s-u-s" as you and your very small group of
followers prefer to call Him. If given a choice of
being in Heaven with the billions of Christian
brothers and sisters who have gone on reading a
real bible and worshipping Jesus, or being there with
you and your small group of supposedly Torah Observant
followers, I will choose the first. I will pray for
you as well.
1
John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that
Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth
the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not
the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath
the Father also.
1
John 4:4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit,
but try the spirits whether they are of God: because
many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit
that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh
is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that
Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and
this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have
heard that it should come; and even now already is it
in the world.
*****
For an in-depth discussion
from a reader about the various Names, please see:
Yahshua,
Yehoshua, Y'shua, Yeshua, Iesous, Iesus, or Jesus The Sacred
Name or True Name
Note:
Since posting the various articles, the name of Union of Two
House Messianic Congregations has been changed to : Union Of
Nazarene Yisraelite Congregations, as of October 26,
2003
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