Shepherding & Charismatic Movements
all the Pentecostal and Charismatic manifestations, including
tongues, are appearing at the same time, we must presume that
all, including tongues, come from the same spirit. Therefore,
we must absolutely determine if these tongues, which many
cling to while rejecting the other manifestations, are of the
Holy Spirit or not.
purposes we will focus on Dr. Marcus Bach who, in 1969, wrote,
Inner Ecstasy: The Power and Glory of Speaking in Tongues.*
Bach believed that all roads lead to God. A Director of and
lecturer for, Spiritual Frontiers Fellowship conferences and
author of many books, his influence was widespread.
Conference of Spiritual
Frontiers Fellowship International (SFFI) 1
to be held June
15-18, 2000 was called, " Frontiers of Consciousness
In the New Millennium." This occult conference is jointly
sponsored by the SFFI (45th annual conference) and The Academy
of Religion and Psychical Research (25th meeting of the Annual
conference) The SFFI is located in Philadelphia, PA.
The June 2000 Conference was
to be held at Rosemont College in Pennsylvania, with
Conference workshops to include: Joy in the Morning: Mystical
Prayer and Meditative Moments; Another Side of the Near-Death
Experience; Kundalini in the New Millennium; Spirit Images: A
Slide Presentation; The Expansion of Consciousness in the New
Millennium; Astrology: What Do Your Stars Say'?
Speakers to this year's
conference include psychotherapists, astrologers, healers,
retired clergy, seekers, naturopaths and so on. The SFFI and
its members are involved in related study in metaphysics,
paranormal phenomena, ESP, biofeedback, Holistic Health, etc.
The SFFI Mission statement
"... is to illuminate, for all people, the reality of
life after physical death."
of the Conference, The
Academy of Religion and Psychical Research (ARPR) 2
was formed in October 1972, is, of course, related to the
Society for Psychical Research (SPR) mentioned in the
articles, The 'god
' in Every Man; What
Happened in Africa? and Jacob
Prasch & the JSSR. It is "An Academic Affiliate
of Spiritual Frontiers Fellowship International"
The ARPR, as an
academic affiliate, has the following three stated purposes
on its site:
"FIRST, to encourage
dialogue, exchange of ideas and cooperation between clergy
and academics of religion and philosophy and scientists,
researchers and academics of all scientific and humanistic
disciplines in the fields of psychical research and new
disciplines as well as the historic sciences.
SECOND, to conduct an
education program for these scholars, the Spiritual
Frontiers Fellowship membership and the general public,
blending data already available in the area of their common
interest with the interchange of views stimulated in these
scholars, to the end that both the scientific and religion
communities may be better informed about such facts and
views and their propriety, value and respectability.
THIRD, to work closely
with, and offer good offices to, all reputable organizations
having related interests in the fields of education,
religion, science and psychical research
The ARPR is
associated with such groups as the Theosophical Society and
the already mentioned SPR. The American branch, as discussed
in "The 'god' In Every Man," was formed as an
extension of the British SPR. According to the website for the
ASPR, their history 4
involves some names common to both.
American Society for Psychical Research, first organized in
1885 with astronomer Simon Newcomb as president, later
became a branch of the British Society for Psychical
Research, founded in 1882, and functioned in Boston under
the guidance of Richard Hodgson, formerly of Cambridge
University, until his death in 1905. A newly-organized and
independent ASPR was soon thereafter established in New York
with James H. Hyslop, formerly Professor of Logic and Ethics
at Columbia University, as its secretary and treasurer.
During the years between 1906 and his death in 1920,
Professor Hyslop greatly expanded the scope of the Society's
work and built up its endowment fund. Publication of the Journal
was initiated in 1907 and has continued uninterruptedly
to the present Among the distinguished contributors of the
past may be mentioned the physicists Sir William Barrett and
Sir Oliver Lodge; the psychologists William James and
Gardner Murphy, both of whom played major roles in the
development of the ASPR. The contemporary scene in psychical
research includes philosophers, psychologists and
physicists, many of them on the faculty of distinguished
universities and colleges here and abroad."
In the online
article, the Rockefeller
the author recorded that The Spiritual
Frontiers Fellowship (SFF) was founded in 1956 in
Independence, MO. "Their address was Exec. Plaza, 10715
Winner Rd, 64052."
prominent men in SFF are Marcus Bach and Gardner
Murphy. They both have interesting backgrounds. Marcus Bach
shows the touch of the Rockefellers. Marcus Bach, born in
1906, is director of special projects for SFF. The
Rockefeller Foundation granted him a fellowship in
“research and creative writing” from 1934-36. Gardner
Murphy was the consultant in 1950 for UNESCO in New Delhi to
the Hindus of the Indian Ministry of Education. From
‘52-’68 he was director of research at the Menninger
Foundation, Topeka, KS. (Yes, psychology is led mainly by
occultists!) Menninger himself is a member of several
environmental groups for the elite, an Honorary trustee of
the Aspen Institute, a Freemason, member of ACLU, and a
close associate of W. Clement Stone. W. Clement Stone in
turn is also a Mason, a member of the occult American
Society for Psychical Research, and the financial backer of
the Menninger Foundation. The Federal Council of Churches
was financed to a large extent by Rockefeller money."
the author of SPIRIT
ENTRY INTO HUMAN MIND 7, Dr. Marcus Bach moved from
Holy-Roller tent meetings to the world of the occult and séances.
father was a member of the Presbyterian church; his mother
of the Reformed faith, (now United Church of Christ). Bach's
father had an interest in fundamental religionists and their
soul-filled worship practices. He would take young Bach with
him to holy-roller tent revivals and camp meetings in the
years...With the strong interest of his parents in religious
life Bach was initially persuaded to attend Mission House
College and Seminary near Sheboygan, Wisconsin. At the end
of his third year he devised means to leave and moved on to
the secular environment of a state university. He obtained a
graduate fellowship which took him to various parts of the
country and encounters with a wide spectrum of religious
faiths... By the time of World War II he [Bach] had
experience with many different religions and contacts with
widely assorted cults and sects. Those contacts led him to
Ralph G. Pressing, then editor of the Psychic Observer.
After attending a séance and mind-reading session in
Hollywood, which was obviously fraudulent, he expressed a
strong desire to learn more about true spiritualist
performances. Pressing suggested they travel to
Chesterfield, Indiana and the spiritualist center located in
that town. The center is still operating today."
involved in séances at the spiritualist "Camp
Chesterfield" where he "conversed with" his
dead sister and also had a fifteen minute
"conversation" with, "... Dr. William James,
famous philosopher and scholar, then deceased, who had been
conjured up by the medium." William James helped found
the American Society for Psychical Research. See: The
'god' IN Every Man
Of his many
ventures, we find "Dr. Marcus Bach......State University
of Iowa" listed on the ORIGINAL
NICAP BOARD OF GOVERNORS 8, that is, the National
Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena, aka UFO's.
Bach actually left the University to become a full time
Director of SFFI. Bach has also been acclaimed among the
B'ahai for his writings about their faith, as mentioned on
their website which included the "bahai-library" 9:
"Marcus Bach acquired a certain fame amongst Baha'is for
his book Shoghi Effendi: An Appreciation (New York: Hawthorne
Books, 1958), one of the longest tributes to the Guardian by a
Some of Dr.
Bach's new age teachings included the following affirmation
text 10, which includes the teaching of the inner light which
we have discussed in-depth in our previous article:
"...You are a distinctive and individual expression of a
Creative Force. You are not a blueprint or a carbon copy or a
ditto of anyone past, present or future. You are you and there
is no one quite like you in the world....Talk about living
well! Who lives better than the one who is true to his own
inner light?...This inner world grows as we will to believe in
it. It is not through searching or feverish groping that we
enter into it. It is through the gateway of our will to
believe. You will to believe that because you are an
individual expression of God there is purpose, real and
meaningful, in your life, and you will to believe that to
achieve this purpose you are also equipped with the talent and
potential necessary for its achievement. Will to believe
writings are used as a resource for occultists across the
spectrum, wrote "The Unity Way", which is used as a
Resource for the theology of Unity School of Christianity,
Lee's Summit, MO. The website for the Unity
of Christianity explains their beliefs.
"Unity School of
Christianity : Mission Statement: Unity School of
Christianity is a center of spiritual light for the people
of the world. We are dedicated to letting this light shine
so brightly that people become more aware of their spiritual
nature and express it in their daily lives. We address
physical, mental, and emotional needs through affirmative
prayer and spiritual education. We serve those who seek
inspiration and prayer support as well as those who use
Unity teachings as their primary path of spiritual
" Our Vision:
We, as an Association practicing the principles taught and
demonstrated by Jesus Christ, serve one another all over the
world with loving leadership, integrity, and excellence. Our
vision is expressed through a consciousness of love,
authenticity, open mindedness, cohesiveness, responsiveness,
decisiveness, prayer, progressiveness, equality,
professionalism and relevance. We are committed to living a
God-centered life, continually developing and providing
creative, spiritually sound, and socially responsible
programs, materials, and training. We assist and support one
another as we serve humanity in all its cultural diversity.
"Sacred Texts: The
Hebrew and Christian Scriptures are the main religious text
used by Unity followers. However, all writings of all world
religions are respected. "Unity believes that there is
good in every religion on earth" (Charles Fillmore).
"...Many in Unity
believe in a form of reincarnation. After death the
soul is believed to leave the body, and to live again in
another human body."
Unity rejects the traditional view that Jesus is a deity to
be worshipped. At no time did Jesus tell his disciples to
worship him. We look upon Jesus as a great healer, miracle
worker, and mystic who had a direct access to God. We
believe that his actions can be emulated by us today."
It becomes very obvious that
Marcus Bach was not a follower of Jesus Christ. His world was
the occult and the search for and embracement of, the
universalism of belief. That is why the significance of
his experience of tongues while involved in the Pentecostal
movement, prior to his above activities, is important to
1 Timothy 6:20 "O
Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust,
avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of
science falsely so called:"
Bach's, "Inner Ecstasy:
The Power and Glory of Speaking in Tongues" reveals the
manifestations embraced by Pentecostals and Charismatics to be
the same as those embraced by occultists and recorded
throughout history in various god or goddess rituals and
worship. We are not speaking of "other languages,"
but rather, unintelligible gibberish, which is claimed by many
partakers to be a gift of God.
Recounting the experience of
his close friend, Joseph Wannamaker, at a Pentecostal healing
service, followed by his own "Baptism," Bach wrote:
"...I saw Joseph's
luminous face...I swear his shock of black hair had an aura
around it, blue-white, brilliant, a radiant aura reaching to
his shoulders...the aura's light enfolded him...It was then
that the congregation exploded with shouts of 'Praise the
Lord!"...This was how we entered into Joseph's
rapture...It was a healing miracle...But for the grace of
God and Pentecostal prayers...All this came back to me now
as I pressed my head deeper into my arms, leaving thoughts
of Joseph in order to reconsider myself. My knees ached. My
body convulsed as if I were deliberately trying to force
myself into the Baptismal fire."
Lord! The Baptism for my friend! The Baptism for my good
friend and brother!"
"It was no use. I was
reaching out for something which wasn't out but in. I cursed
my ungullible mind for hanging on to reason, while my ego
praised me for not going out-of-my-mind. My body grew tense.
Tense and tenser to a breaking point."
"A strange thing was
happening. I was feeling light, relaxed, trancelike. I was
aware that my lips were moving and that I was mumbling
incoherently. Something was using my vocal cords, jabbering
something through me. Short, sharp, stabbing gasps were
getting the upper hand, taking me over, clearing a spiral
path with a jargon I did not understand. ...Joseph's voice.
My voice. God's voice. It was all one...Not my words. Not my
language. It was by no means I who was speaking into my
nestled arms. This was what the Pentecostals called the
unknown tongue or glossolalia."
"I was conscious of
what was happening, but as I contemplated this, the I that I
thought I knew began moving out of range, moving into the
shadows, forced into retreat by an oncoming blob of light.
My body was shaking. I was hot and cold. An ecstatically
pleasant, thrilling surge of passion swept through me as if
the Holy Ghost, whatever it was, had finally found an entry
and was rushing in to take control."
"The shaft of light
was real and visible behind my tightly closed eyes. The more
I tried to block it out, the more intense it became. The
more I let go of my resistance to it, the faster it took
form, setting up a blur of whirling scenes:...crowds of
people battling for and against my search for the
Baptism....Overpowered and overcome, I felt my arms lifted
up in sheer delight...I answered his exclamation with a rush
of gibberish welling up from deep inside me, I burst into
hysterical laughter and weeping and sprawled on the floor in
freedom and delight...It was insanely wonderful. For the
first time in my life a liberty beyond understanding and a
joy that knew no bounds had hold of me. Just to lie on the
floor and roll in the floor and shout prayers to God in a
voice and words that only He could recognize, that only He
could have put in my heart in the first place, to know that
for once there was no separation between us, no quarrel, no
quibbling about what is good or bad, true or false, white or
black, pure or sinful, knowing only that whatever is, is
right, that must have been what I was talking about in my
"unknown tongue." p. 14-16
"...The outpour of
the heavenish words...I was saying it now in a
"language of the Spirit" of which I understood not
a single word. Mine was a feeling, a feeling that I was
being spoken through." p. 17
"My words were
drowned in a flood of ecstatic laughter. It was the silliest
thing. I was again being spoken through. Words spewed out of
me..."I am Ishmael's offspring!" The expression
came from the same source from which I was getting all
my "wisdom and power." From the Holy Spirit.
Straight from the Holy Spirit, the Paraclete, the Third
Person of the Trinity. Praise the Lord."
"It was all mine.
Everything I needed to know was mine. Anything I ever wanted
to be was mine..." p.17 end quote.
2 Corinthians 11:3-4
"But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent
beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be
corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he
that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not
preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye
have not received, or another gospel, which ye have
not accepted, ye might well bear with him."
- Since all receive the
Holy Spirit when we accept Jesus Christ as Lord and
Saviour, to receive "another baptism" of a spirit is Biblically
to receive another spirit. It is Biblical to keep
"being filled" with the Spirit.
Bach, Joseph and the other
Pentecostals were babbling back and forth in the same
Question: If one does not
know what is being babbled in this unintelligible tongue, how
does one know whether they are praising or blaspheming
God? Can a person not belonging to Jesus Christ
lay claim to praising God with a gift of the Holy Spirit?
James 3:5-6 "Even so
the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things.
Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth! And the
tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue
among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and
setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire
of hell. v. 13 "Who is a wise man and endued with
knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation
his works with meekness of wisdom." v. 17 "But the
wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable,
gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good
fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy."
Matthew 12:30-33 "He
that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not
with me scattereth abroad. Wherefore I say unto you, All
manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but
the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven
unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of
man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh
against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him,
neither in the world to come. Either make the tree good, and
his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit
corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit."
Paul wrote that when
the Holy Spirit intercedes for us, it was with groanings
which can not be uttered. Those groanings cannot be
Romans 8:26 "Likewise
the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not
what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself
maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be
Paul also wrote to the
Corinthians that there were to be no tongues--other
languages-- spoken unless there was an interpreter and then
only one or two were to speak and in order. If everyone is
babbling incoherent gibberish, whether like described above or
in group prayer as individuals, how is that being Biblically
1 Corinthians 14:27-28
"If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by
two, or at the most three, and that by course; and let one
interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep
silence in the church: and let him speak to himself, and to
The manifestations Bach
described as being identical to that of his Pentecostal
friend, 'Joseph', are described in like manner by those who
achieve 'cosmic consciousness' and which we discussed in
"The 'god' In
Every Man." and More
Manifestations & Less Bible! The manifestations and
concept of having all knowledge and so on is also the same as
was described as taking place with Fox, Boehme and many
others. Yes, the "expression" Bach describes and all
that was happening did come from the same source.
However, that the source was God is what will be put to the
First, there is a need to
evaluate whether the disciples who received the Holy Spirit at
Pentecost behaved in this described manner. Did they:
- Babble gibberish which no
one could understand?
- Laugh and weep
uncontrollably and hysterically?
- Have convulsions?
- Roll around on the floor
shouting at God?
- Believe that they knew
all things and everything they wanted to be was theirs?
- Was the knowledge that
they were sinful removed from them?
- Were they given the idea
that whatever they thought or believed was right before
A perusal of Acts and other
Scriptures would indicate otherwise on all questions.
If one has the Lord Jesus
Christ as Lord and Savior, we have the Holy Spirit indwelling.
What was it, then, that controlled Bach's body and vocal
chords? In order to have the Holy Spirit, you have to
belong to Jesus Christ. It's that simple.
8:9-10 “But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if
so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man
have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if
Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the
Spirit is life because of righteousness.”
Corinthians 3:16 “Know ye not that ye are the temple of
God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?”
Corinthians 6:19 -20 "What? Know ye not that your body
is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye
have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with
a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your
spirit, which are God's."
To our understanding, what
took place at Pentecost was a gifting of languages, as those
in attendance spoke the wonderful things of God and every
person heard in their own language. Paul wrote in 1
Corinthians 14:21-22 of the purpose of tongues or languages,
“In the law it is
written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I
speak unto this people, and yet for all that they will not
hear me, saith the Lord. Wherefore tongues are for a sign,
not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but
prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for
them which believe."
Paul specifically addressed
the idea of all in a church speaking tongues, something
advocated by Peter Wagner and supported by Billy Graham. v.23
"If therefore the whole church be come together into one
place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those
that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye
Will God contradict those
statements by having groups of people doing what Marcus Bach
described and which activities both Pentecostal's and
Charismatic's engage in, in varying degrees?
“How is it then, brethren? When ye come together,
every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a
tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all
things be done unto edifying.”
“For God is not the author of confusion, but of
peace, as in all churches of the saints.”
understand that this is not suggesting that any who engage in
this activity have not accepted Jesus Christ nor is it
affirmation that they have. God knows the hearts, we do not.
There are some pastors who have suggested that the emotional
yearning to receive this 'gift of tongues' is so strong as to
cause a person to respond from what they have heard others
say, and merely mimic what they have heard. Tongues is listed
as the least of the giftings, and Paul said to desire the best
gifts, which then excludes tongues. See: one former
experience of tongues.
We firmly believe that a
person can not be possessed by another spirit unless they are
forfeiting Christ or have never honestly accepted Him.
himself said in Luke 11:34-36:
light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is
single, thy whole body is full of light; but when thine eye
is evil, thy body also is full of darkness. Take heed
therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.
If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part
dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright
shining of a candle doth give thee light."
6:24 "No man can serve two masters: for either he will
hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to
the one, and despise the other..."
Tongues and Manifestations
Tongues & "The Inner Ecstasy"
* Marcus Bach, The Inner Ecstasy; The World
Publishing Company, New York and Cleveland; 1969
73. Charisma vs.
Charismania , Chuck Smith, Harvest House Publishers,
1983, p. 113, 110
77. Association of
Fundamentalists Evangelizing Catholics Resolution on Ex
Catholics For Christ (renamed Reaching Catholics for Christ)
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