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James
Trimm's Diploma Revisited
Revelation
2:2
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I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
Just to
refresh what is being discussed. On James Trimm's
Nazarene website, in promotion of his own Yeshiva, or
Jewish School, and seen prior to July 2001, we noted that
he had four letters of recommendation from various
individuals. He also had his "transcript"
and "diploma"
from Saint
John Chrysostom Theological Seminary (SJCTS).
While it
is almost nonsensical to again address "Letters of
recommendation" for a worthless degree, from a
"seminary" that had dead current faculty, no
professors, teachers, curriculum, or classes and no
actual seminary, which incidentally has been pulled from
the web [see:
HargisNewsFlash] it seems that James Trimm wishes to
discuss the matter. And so we will. For the last time on
these particular issues.
The
version of Trimm's Yeshiva page, from May 30, 2003, had no
access to the credential page. The lack
of direct access appeared to be in response to the
controversy over his credentials or lack thereof.
There were four names listed as having given
"letters of recommendation."
They were:
Phillip Arnn, J. Phillip Arnold, James DeFrancisco,
Rabbi Herbert J. Gilner. The Transcript, Diploma
picture and email from SJCTS validating Trimm's
doctorate were all linked. There was also a link to
the manufactured Saint John Chrysostom Theological
Seminary, which had dead current faculty and trustees,
and multiple people using various names.
UPDATE:
Re Saint John...Seminary, Please see HargisNewsFlash
The
Recommendation letters were removed from James Trimm's
website so it was difficult to find what they had
said. However, there were copies available of the following:
Trimm's
Diploma--"Sacrae Theological Doctorate"- diploma
Trimm's
Transcript -- transcript
Email
from Saint John... Seminary -- stjemail
Rabbi
Herbert J. Gilner Letter -- gilner
Some
observations about the posted "Official
Transcript" for James Trimm's doctorate.
The
name of the seminary is misspelled. Chrysostom is
spelled as "Chrysotom", omitting an 's' in
their official seminary transcript. There is no
physical address, phone number or contact person.
There is no "official seminary seal,"
although there is a place for one. There is no prior
record of education, no professors, no dates or grades
for the courses, and many more credit hours than would
normally be required to obtain a doctorate. And quite
frankly, the transcript is ill designed with alignment
of rows and columns uneven, and the actual lines that
are drawn are smudged.
Of the
missing Seminary Seal, James stated on the Messianic
Apologetic Forum: "First of all your initial claim is false. The
transcript is embossed with a
seal but that seal is of a nature that it does not copy/scan
so it is not visible in
the scanned copy. Secondly I cannot answer for the fact that
the Bishop made a typo in the transcript when he prepared
it. In fact I never noticed it until this typo suddenly
became "evidence of forgery" some two or three
years ago."
On July
22, 2003, James posted the following response to my
posted statements on the Messianic Apologetic
Forum.
It will be dealt with in parts.
From: "James
Trimm" <jstrimm@n...>
Date: Tue Jul 22,
2003 6:58 am
Subject: Re:
Letters of Recommendation, Saint John Chryostom,
Religious Task Force
"Well I have
not seen as much garbage as I saw in Schmuel's
forwarding of Vickie's Lashon HaRa letter in a long
time.
I am not
Vickie'sonly target, as you can see she is currently
attacking several
other Messianic Leaders..." [spelling
as seen]
I'm an equal
opportunity Berean. I test the fruit of all
"spiritual leadership" as they come to my
attention. It has nothing to do with
"denomination" or "race". We're not
to be a respecter of persons. Since, when I did the 1999
"To
Embrace Hebrew Roots" series, it was due to
being asked to be a part of the Messianic movement, it's
highly unlikely that I have an agenda against anything
but the occult, false teaching and false teachers
infiltrating the Body of Christ. The Apostle Paul
clearly stated that there is no distinction in members
of that Body. All Believers, are our
Brothers and Sisters in the Lord. If I have an
"agenda" at all, it is to expose and reprove
the "fruitless deeds of darkness."
It's interesting that a person claiming to be
a spiritual leader finds it offensive for believers to
be Biblically obedient and heed warnings about false
teachers. That is: "try the spirits",
"you shall know them by their fruit", etc.
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
2 Timothy 4:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
There's talk about
dealing with these various people, such as James Trimm,
via a "Beit Din." That seems to be pushed
forward by James Trimm's supporter Steven
Berkowitz. He heads the Beit Tefillah Messianic
congregation. http://www.spokentruth.org/%7esteve/PCBeit%20Tefillah.htm
"Beit T'fillah
Fellowship a Yasharim Messianic Congregation"
It might appear to be
a bit of a curiosity as to why he speaks in defense of
James and his friends, like Avi ben Mordechai, aka
Bradley Marcus. For More on Avi ben Mordechai see: Avi
ben Mordechai & Millennium 7000
The reason is quite simple. Mr.
Berkowitz also runs a "Yeshiva." He also
promotes the same people, such as Avi ben Mordechai, as
speakers to his various conferences. James Trimm also
posts articles to his site. And Steven Berkowitz's
"Yeshiva" accepts "academic credits"
from both Trimm's SANJ and David Hargis's MBI Yeshiva's.
In fact, Pacific Coast
Messianic Institute, Torah Study Center, in their
"About Us", states,
"Pacific Coast
Messianic Institute/TSC, has branches in Portland, OR,
Seattle area and Northen California."
"PCMI/TSC
offers theough its courses:
ASSOCIATES IN
MESSIANIC STUDIES
BACHELORS IN MESSIANIC MINISTRY
MASTERS IN MESSIANIC MINISTRY
PCMI/TSC accepts
completed and credited coursework "C" and
above from MBI YESHIVA, SANJ YESHIVA, UMJC YESHIVA,
MJAA YESHIVA, SIMCHAT TORAH YESHIVA(COLO.) and will
assess completion of certificate coursework from IMJA,
IFMJ, and MIA..."
http://www.spokentruth.org/%7esteve/PChomepage.htm
http://www.spokentruth.org/~steve/PCAboutUs.htm
.....
...The Master's
Degree is the second line of professional degrees,
and the first scholar's degree. Our Yeshiva provides
the Master's Degree graduate with upper echelon
religious teaching, and scholarly credentials.
This
may be useful in the position of
teacher or director of a religious institute or
college.
Licensed and
ordained ministers may want to secure a Master's
Degree to authorize their role and status as a
scholar in their ministry..."
"http://www.spokentruth.org/%7esteve/PCDegrees.htm
As
already stated by David Linkletter of Texas Higher
Education, and basing conclusions on that and Texas
State laws, it would be illegal to receive
"credits" from Trimm's Yeshiva. One might wish to reread
Steve Levicoff's numerous helps in "The NIFI Criteria,
or How to Spot a Degree Mill in 75 Easy Steps",
which is partially quoted in the article: MBI Yeshiva & The Hargis
Clan
The idea of a "Beit
Din," is that a special "authority" is
needed to evaluate if there is some wrong doing.
Personally, I prefer what God has to say about the
matter.
1. We are all called
to discern both good and evil by use of the Word of God.
No one has that authority over another.
Hebrews 5:13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
2. The Apostle Paul
was very specific about needing to have a court or
authority determine what is right or wrong among
Believers. The persons to "judge" the issues
are not ones who claim authority or are esteemed, but
the least esteemed.
1 Corinthians 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
Unfortunately, because
of James Trimm's rebellion, the illegal diploma
dispensing, the questionable credentials, falsifying
academic achievements, the dead faculty, the failure to
give refunds as directed by secular law, the plagiarism,
etc., this cannot remain amongst Believers, but will be
dealt with by "the Law." However, the
spiritual, sound doctrine and Biblical obedience issues
are to be evaluated Biblically. That is what is being
done.
1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
Titus 3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers,
to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,
2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, showing all meekness unto all men.
Letters
of Recommendation
Proverbs
19:8-9
8 He that getteth wisdom loveth his own soul: he that keepeth understanding shall find good.
9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish.
James Trimm finally
produced the "Letters of Recommendation" of
all who were listed, on his TrimmFamily website, flown
June 23. We see that the Phillip
Arnold letter was written May 29, 1995, the DeFrancisco
letter was written June 6, 1995. And the Phillip
Arnn letter, May 13, 1995.
On the Transcipt,
Arnold's letter is listed as June 1, 1995. James
DeFrancisco's, MILTA letter is listed as being from
June 5, 1995. However. on the actual Letter of
recommendation, it is dated as June 6, 1995.
Question: How does
one receive a letter on June 5th, which was not
written and sent until June 6th or after?
Further the
Transcript is dated June 7th, while the date the
"Degree" was "Conferred" was June
6th, 1995, the same day DeFrancisco wrote his letter
of recommendation, although the transcript wrongly
records that as being June 5th.
James himself
claimed on a forum, and in response to being
questioned about his "doctorate", and dated
2000-10-11, that his "degee" was
"conferred" June 7th, not June 6th, as
stated on the Transcript. [spelling
as seen]
"I was conferred
with the S.T.D. degee (Sacrae Theologae Doctor)
by this seminary on June 7th 1995."
"Moreover
my degree was earned. It was NOT awarded as
an
honorary
degree nor was it purchased (as I said I was
actually on a full scholarship).
I have a certified
transcript with real credit hours.
The school also
required three letters of recomendation from persons who
have doctorates in
the field of religion in order to be awarded the degree of
doctor.
My
degree required real credit hours, as well as three
such
recomendations.
It was NOT the product
of a diploma mill."
Please
see
Full email/forum interaction regarding these statements and other
issues: Trimm
Critics
James stated that
SJCTS required, "...three letters of
recommendation from persons who have doctorates in the
field of religion in order to be awarded the degree of
doctorate."
But, in another
statement on his TrimmFamily web page he said,
"...St. John Chrysostom required at least two
letters of recommendation from doctorates active in
the field. The following were my letters of
recommendation from my recommending advisors to the
seminary."
Two is different
than three. A doctorate in the "field of
religion" is different than "doctorates
active in the field." Which field? Semitic New
Testament? Way Bible Translation? Linguistics? Rabbi
Yosef's Mormon Jewish "PhD in Rabbinical
Studies"?
James
Trimm's Homeschool
Matthew
18:6
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.
7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
James, incidentally,
has made claims on his Home School Forum, via his wife
Ingrid,
that he not only has a Doctorate in Semitic Studies,
but also Linguistics. All applicants and messages to
the Home School Forum are carefully screened by James,
so we know he is aware of the Welcoming Message
document.
"From:
"homeschool-club Moderator" <homeschool-club-owner@yahoogroups.com>
To:
Subject: Welcome to homeschool-club
Hello,
Welcome to the homeschool-club group at Yahoo!
This is for homeschoolers to get to know each other
and discuss
homework and why they are homeschooled. It will
be for fun and learning too.
More to come.....
Owner
Inga Trimm (Kitty) itrimm@ihms.net
(Parent)
James Trimm jstrimm@nazarene.net
(Parent)"
"File
name: Welcome_to_the_Home_schooling_Club.doc"
"...Welcome
to the Home schooling Club!
"...Since
this is a children’s group as well as a parent’s
group, all messages require my husband’s or
myself, Kitty, approval. I want to make sure that no
inappropriate messages get sent to the group. This
hasn’t been a problem in a while, but since I do
not know everyone who joins this group, I must make
sure they are here for home schooling proposes. For
this reason, it might take up to 24 hours for your
message to be approved."
"...My husband is Dr. James Trimm. We have been
married for 12 years and have 5 children. We live in
the Dallas/Fort Worth Area of Texas in the USA. We
have been home schooling for about 5 years now and
find it a lot more rewarding then regular school. I,
myself, am disable with a seizure disorder, but
still am able to run school with my husband and our
own organization, which is small, but growing. I
also was home schooled during my school years after
elementary school. My husband runs a religious
organization and has a doctorate in Semitic Studies
and Linguistics..."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/homeschool-club/
In
all sincerity, one would hope that a tutor is brought
in to teach spelling and phonics.
All
this time this author thought the
"Doctorate in Semitic Studies" from Saint John's was nonsense.
Now we have it, that it is more than what James has in
the past declared and is currently stating: "I was conferred
with the S.T.D. degee (Sacrae Theologae Doctor)",
"I have letters of recomendation for the degree
of doctorate in Semitic Studies from when I was
awarded the degree of doctorate.", "I am a
scholar of theology." [spelling
as seen]
Now James Scott
Trimm is a Doctor of Linguistics too. One has to be
truly impressed that James Trimm has never boasted of
this accomplishment to other scholars. He appears to have preferred to
simply impress children and their parents with his
fluency in languages. It's unclear which languages
that would be, and whether that would be spoken and/or
written proficiency. And then of course, we have
the question of ... where did he get his
"Doctorate" in "Linguistics"?
James has a double
standard when it comes to dealing with Home Schoolers
and children. He takes specific precautions about what
is being allowed on "his" Home School Forum.
Yet, he took great pains to promote his brand of beliefs
on the Messianic Homeschool Forum.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MessianicHomeschool/messages/
"MessianicHomeschool
· This list is for Messianic Jewish and Gentile
Believers who have chosen to homeschool their children
or are thinking of homesch..."
"I would like
to extend an invitation to any of you home schoolers
out there to join the homeschool-club group.
Many of us there are Messianic/Nazarene home-schoolers
but all
home-schoolers are welcome.
This group is for is for children who are
home-schooled. It is a heavily moderated
group...."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MessianicHomeschool/message/3128
Doing a search in the
messages reveals several pages of James Trimm posts,
promoting his Nazarene Judaism, HRV, and so much
more.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MessianicHomeschool/messagesearch?
query=James%20trimm
In this message, he
culled, or perhaps a better word would be chummed,
the Messianic Homeschool Forum for children and parents
interested in joining his Homeschool Club/Forum...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MessianicHomeschool/message/3128
What is the most
disturbing to this author, besides his looking at
children as a captive audience, is James Trimm
unashamedly teaching them kabbalah, with the parents none
the wiser. So much for the recommendation by
"rabbis" to not enter into the kabbalah until
the age of forty. Which brings into question James Trimm
studying and teaching it, as he is in his mid
thirties.
"Beit
Netzarim Yeshiva believes in the close teacher/talmid
concept that seems to have characterized the
Rabbinical schools of the Second Temple Era. Without
compromise, Beit Netzarim will guide students through
a complete Messianic Jewish education that tracks out
areas of student interest.
The PaRDeS study plan is an all-encompassing study
plan which is designed to progressively unfold into
more in-depth teaching each year. The plan is also
intended as part of a return to more traditional
Yeshiva studies...
The second year
will emphasize the Remez and include an in-depth study
of the Gemara (i.e. the Talmud) and of Luke as Remez...
The fourth year will emphasize the Sod level and
include an in-depth study of the Sefer Yetzirah, Bahir
and Zohar and a study of Yochanan as Sod level
material..."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MessianicHomeschool/message/3102
Many are teaching that one must also utilize "PaRDes
as a tool for Torah study," with the qualifier, "that this would be within
normative rabbinic Judaism (and should be in ours), not necessarily just
Kaballah, that is why the rule for being 40 years of age and extensively
schooled in Torah was the original prerequisite for understanding Sod." and in
order to understand the meaning of the Scriptures.
It needs to be
understood that Pardes is an acronym for the understanding
of Scriptures via kabbalistic means. It's noteworthy that
an article published in the final print edition of the
Jerusalem Perspective, written by David Bivin of the
Jerusalem School of Synoptic Research (JSSR) and who is so
popular within the Hebrew Roots movement, is not accepted
by many within the Hebrew Roots or Messianic movements or
Christians embracing these teachings, because of their not
understanding or denying the source of kabbalah or Pardes:
“... students of the
Kabbalah speak of Pardes ...which is an acronym derived
from the initial letter of each of the four terms
(p-r-d-s)....According to the late Professor Gershom
Scholem, pioneer researcher in the field of Kabbalah,
Moses ben Shem Tov of Leon was the first known writer to
mention the acronym Pardes. He did so about 1290 in a
composition called Sefer Pardes. Moses ben Shem Tov also
wrote The Zohar, which became the most influential work
of the Spanish Kabbalists...The Kabbalists were mystics
par excellence, and they pursued vigorously Scripture's
concealed meanings. They aspired to an elevated
spiritual awareness by gaining access to concealed
knowledge through scrutinizing each letter of the
biblical text and through ecstatic ascents into
heaven...Their longing for esoteric knowledge may be
traced back in part to earlier Gnostic speculations.
Such speculations left their imprints on the Kabbalah...The
acronym Pardes belongs exclusively to the domain of the
Kabbalah.”
Quoted from an article titled:
“Medieval Jargon on First-century Lips”
Author: David Bivin
Jerusalem Perspective
Page 33
July-September 1999 #56
A book published in 1984
by David Bivin (Director of the JSSR) and Roy Blizzard has
formed the basis of much Hebrew Roots' doctrine. The
following excerpts from Understanding The Difficult
Words Of Jesus represent the JSSR viewpoint on the
lack of originality of the Greek New Testament:
"...Our reasons for
writing this book are not only to show that the original
gospel was communicated in the Hebrew language; but to
show that the entire New Testament can only be
understood from a Hebrew perspective. 2.
"It cannot be
overemphasised, that the key to an understanding of the
New Testament is a fluent knowledge of Hebrew and an
intimate acquaintance with Jewish history, culture, and
Rabbinic Literature."
Jesus Christ is
identified by the JSSR as being "like other Jewish sages
of that time". Please see Jacob
Prasch & The Jerusalem School of Synoptic Research
for more on the JSSR
James also sold his
skills as a "translator" and expert in Aramaic
and Hebrew, to the prospective children and parent
followers of his teachings. They apparently were/are
unaware of his worthless credentials.
"...In a recent
Email we told you that there would be some major
revisions and additions to the nazarene.net website in
coming days.
We have just put up the Peshitta Aramaic text of Mark
in Hebrew letters...
We will also be
putting up Hebrew and ARamaic online grammars.
Yes learning Hebrew will empower you to read the Tanak
(OT), Hebrew Matthew, the Midrashim (like Sefer
HaYashar "The Book of Jasher"), the Sefer
Yetzirah, the Bahir, the Mishna and the Tosefta. Not
to mention many of the Dead Sea Scrolls, all in their
original language.
And learning Aramaic will empower you to read parts of
the Tanak (like Daniel), The Old Syriac Aramaic of the
Gospels, the Peshitta Aramaic NT, The Crawford Aramaic
Revelation, the Aramaic Peshitta Tanak, the Targums,
the Talmuds, the Zohar not to mention many of the Dead
Sea Scrolls (such as the Aramaic Book of Enoch) all in
the original Aramaic.
Now as the first
step in this project SANJ will also soon be putting up
the complete Peshitta Aramaic NT in the original
Aramaic in Hebrew letters!
Then SANJ will begin placing the Hebrew and Aramaic
grammars online a chapter at a time.
If the project is successful at that point we will
begin adding such
documents as the Targums, the Peshitta Tanak, the
Talmuds etc....
We are asking for
contributions, especially regular contributuions that
will help us make this a reality...."
Make sure you put in
the notes, that you are sending in a donation for the
Community Center.
If you need further help, email us at itrimm@h...
or sales@n...
.
NEW MESSIANIC TRANSLATION:
THE HEBRAIC ROOTS VERSION
http://www.nazarene.net/hrv
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MessianicHomeschool/message/1628
On a personal note. I
used to speak to parents about curriculum. I explained
the contents and ideology behind curriculum in Public
Schools. I also warned and encouraged parents to take
the time to check out home schooling resources, as many
hold the same concepts as what they are desiring to
remove their children from. I, as a parent, am
speechless. I can not even source a word that can
explain the emotions that I am feeling after spending
one half hour on this forum reading James Trimm's
attempt at merchandising his theology and wares to
children.
While
"translating" his Hebrew Roots Version (HRV),
yet unpublished, running the above Homeschool forum, and
numerous other controlled forums and website, his Yeshiva,
and Beit Din, James and his wife also are busy moderating
and writing recaps of such things as the, "Young and the Restless."
http://www.youngandtherestlessforum.com;
Bold and the Beautiful Fan Club, etc.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/-fansofYandR-/messages/
2628
> James trimm > "Now that I am able to tape
again, Kitty has asked me to write the Tuesday and
Thursday recaps... and I am more than happy to
assist....it has been awhile since I wrote recaps...hope
this isn't too long!!! ....
It is unclear why
James, while declaring his Doctor of Semitic Studies or
"S.T.D. degee (Sacrae Theologae
Doctor,)" never told anyone about his "Doctorate in
Linguistics", when he was very clearly asked many times
about where he obtained his skill in Aramaic and Hebrew
for translating. For more on this issue, see Michael
Rood & James Trimm & The WAY
James has been unexpectedly modest in this
regard. People need to encourage James Trimm to share
where and when he obtained this "Doctor of
Linguistics" title, and for what language skills it
was given.
2
Timothy 3:
13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
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Phillip
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Doctor James Trimm's
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Table of
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you don't know Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and
would like some help understanding His gift of eternal
salvation, please contact us. Saying a prayer won't
save you. Prayer is merely expressing to God how you
feel. Believing and repenting are just the beginning of
walking with Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.


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