Shepherding & Charismatic Movements
"Ye Shall Be As Gods"
~Manifest Sons of God & Latter Rain
"For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not."
The Feast of the Tabernacles is considered the "handbook" for the
Latter Rain, Joel’s Army and Manifest Sons of God teachings. Manifest Sons of
God are viewed as perfected conquerors during the Great Tribulation. Warnock
also taught that the Great Tribulation was actually a time of glory:
". . .day and
hour of the manifestation of the Sons of God, when the Son Himself shall be
unveiled in the hearts and lives of His many brethren." 9
the Great Tribulation would be darkness to one class of people but, not so
"the Sons of God."
"It shall therefore be Great
Tribulation, such as was never known from the foundation of the world; but it
shall also be Great Glory. . .one class of people it shall be a day of
'darkness' and of 'gloominess.' But to the other, 'as the morning spread upon
the mountains.' (Joel 2:2) To the one the Great Tribulation; but to the other,
'The Manifestation of the Sons of God.'" 10
that these 'Sons of God' will be benefactors, remembering that they too were
once sinners. He then
preempts the order of events and the coming of Christ with the Saints and
teaches instead that this particular 'elite' class will become perfect and will
experience no persecution during the Great Tribulation. Those who don't quite
make it in their faith will be persecuted, but will obtain mercy and help from
the Manifest Sons of God.
"Now we can
understand how the overcomer in the Day of the Lord, when Great Tribulation is upon the earth, will be
able to administer help and comfort and sustenance to God's people who are under
oppression and persecution [WHICH THESE BELIEVERS WON'T BE UNDER!!] The Great Tribulation
itself is going to be cut short because of the Sons of God. . .so the Sons of God, through the
exercise of their royal priesthood, shall actually shorten the Great
Tribulation. Jesus has declared that
they would: 'For the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." (Matt.24:22) The elect
will have entered into a new priesthood, a royal priesthood. As priests, they will be able to
present the needs of the people to God, and intercede for them; and as kings they will have the authority
of God to dispense life and blessing to such as are in tribulation and distress. The world
has had her day of kings and dictators. . .This new kingdom shall be a Priesthood;--a
priesthood that "can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that out
of the way," for they
will remember their former afflictions. . .They shall not have forgotten that they too were once
sinners, defiled in His sight, and poured out their complaints to God in bitterness of their
sorrow. And therefore they shall reign as priests, co-heirs with the Son in the Kingdom of Grace."
Jesus Christ said
that His disciples would be persecuted -- with no exceptions -- as we have
shown from Scripture in Persecution-Free
Christianity. Negating Scripture,
Rick Joyner communicates the same theme as George Warnock regarding the
darkness, the glory and the Manifest Sons becoming benefactors. Joyner's
article, "Y2K & The Church," which was posted last year on the
Messianic Jewish Alliance of America web site, implied that Messianics will be
the remnant of Israel -- a very special and elite group during the Tribulation
is one of the characteristics most associated with the last days. However, in
this Scripture and others we
see that even when 'deep darkness' comes upon the peoples (usually associated with the
great tribulation), the Lord's glory will be rising upon His people to the degree that the nations
will turn to them. The rest of the chapter is no less encouraging (verses 4-22): (look it up and
read it now!)
"I think that we
can also see from the text above, as well as from the entirety of Scripture,
that our goal should be to
seek the glory of the Lord, not to stash provisions. The glory of the Lord is what will attract
the provision of the Lord in these times. In the coming darkness, the glory will stand out more
than ever, and even the kings of the earth and the nations will turn to those who have it." 12
Jesus said in Luke 22:25-26 that His disciples are not to be
known as benefactors:
"And he said unto them, The kings of the
Gentiles exercise lordship it over them; and they that
over them are called benefactors. But ye shall not be so: but he that is
greatest among you, let him be
as the younger, and he that is chief, as he that doth serve."
F. W. Grant's
observation in "The Numerical Bible" that "benefactors"
typically exhibit an overlording spirit appropriately refutes this elitist
mentality of the modern prophets:
of 'benefactor,' ('Euergetes') is that by which one of the Ptolemies is known
in history and was often bestowed upon the Roman emperor. But this flattery was
not to be among His disciples. . . Heaven is to be no place for the ambition of
man. Can the disciples take up service to win lordship by it, and state and
authority? That were surely impossible; nay, the greatest in heaven's Kingdom
is he that humbleth himself as a little child (Matt. 18:4). In heaven's rule,
Love rules; and therefore rule is service still, most valued because it is
"benefactor" teachings are found amongst promoters of the Pre-wrath Rapture teaching such as Ed Tarkowski and Tricia
Tillin. Some of their associates like John Yonge
teach that those who have prepared for the Tribulation by stockpiling, laying away
gold or stocks, paying their taxes years in advance and generally behaving
themselves will not be persecuted during the Tribulation. Jesus said in Luke 22:25-26 ". . .but ye shall not be so. . ."
Others promote the
concept of believers being "Josephs," which of course locates their
ancestry in the lost tribe of Ephraim. They are in fact echoing Bob Jones, Rick
Joyner and George Warnock who say that only the elite and prepared will
minister to the less fortunate believers, and that there will be great joy in
going through the Tribulation.
Their particular promotion of
Pre-wrath and also the Post- Tribulation Rapture teachings are necessary to dissolve the dispensational
distinctions between physical Israel and the Church in the minds of believers. Having
done this, change agents will attempt to elevate the Jews--particularly
kabbalists who reject the Deity of Christ- to a
position of equality with the Church, which in fact they desire to rule over.
The "Church" or Body of Christ is comprised of Jews and Gentiles. Paul
asked the question, Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
The answer was no, as very
clearly salvation was offered to Jews and non-Jews, and both have partaken of
Christ. But many also reject that truth.
Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Kabbalist Avi ben Mordecai, who
also teaches the "Hebrew Roots" to Christians and Messianics, states that Jewish teachers -- and eventually a Jewish high court --
should be put in place to teach believers and regulate their conduct through
"Halaka", the body of traditional Rabbinic law as written in the
Talmud and Midrash.
"As I see it today, Nazerean (Messianic)
halacha should be in place to help us as a global community of believers
in Y'shua HaMashiach properly interpret the written code of Sinai for the community at-large.
Not only is this good government (i.e., "the kingdom of G-d on
earth") but this is also the
commandment of Y'shua. . ."
"The council in
Acts Chapter 15 led by it Nasi (Prince) Ya'acov HaTzadeq (James) and his Av
Bet Din (Father of the
House of Judgment) Kefa (Peter), was built on Y'shua's Mishnah and
Gemara and on the
principle that biblical Jewish government must include the halachic jurisdiction of a Bet
Din or high court ( Mattityahu 18). Consequently, I believe we have the
privilege to establish another authority like the one recorded in Acts 15, and
ideally, it should be
seated in Y'rushalayim! "
". . .first
century halacha is not what it used to be. Furthermore, since there is no official
high court to represent the
halachic interests of believers in Y'shua, what are we to do with our own
and need for legal rulings? Do we turn to the established traditions of the
The Ashenazim? [Mystics] The Conservatives or some other body of
Judaism? I believe that
Judaism's ancient scholars and sages were far more knowledgeable on the Oral Traditions
than we could ever hope to be. So, what do we do? Where do we stand today since we do not
have our own high court and have not had one for nearly two millennia?" 41. " [Brackets
added] 14 See:
The Bible and the
For More on Avi ben Mordechai see: Avi
ben Mordechai & Millennium 7000
A Christian woman
who participated in Ed Tarkowski's Pre-Wrath Forum wrote her
observations about this Process
situation, in which appointed "facilitators" manipulate participants into accepting a new belief system -- the
Post-Trib Rapture. Sally Germer wrote:
not ready But, soon we will
"discover who we are". "
"Jesus Himself delineated three groups. . .the Jews, the
Church and the Gentiles. Three groups experiencing different things.
One group flees; one is passive.
Different specific questions (end of age and consummation of the end,
etc.) answered in different specific ways."
"The pre-tribulation belief was yet again brought up by Biff
on Ed's forum to create controversy. David Liben answers brilliantly, but is not responded to according
to his questions. I discovered on the
Last Trumpet forum (which Ed and Biff highly recommend) that the
pre-tribulation belief must be squashed so as to avoid anti-Semitism."
"Also, the forum (Last Trumpet) says that Ephraim is the
Church and Judah is the Jews. Together, we are one new man. But, to them has been revealed many things
which they cannot tell us yet.
" They say that this is not
British-Israelism which is
complete replacement. That's because
this is only partial replacement.
At the heart is post tribulationism.
It must be promoted. The
tribulation is "Jacob's wrestling", and those who come out of it are
"They "have a responsibility to show the saints"
that "If ye are in Christ then ye are Abraham's seed, and heirs according
to the promise." "We have a
responsibility to share that when we come into christ we come into the Lion of
the tribe of Judah. He is a Jewish
Messiah and we are in Him!"
"Is that what Ed and Biff are surreptitiously trying to
do? Perhaps we are not ready yet. They state WE ARE ISRAEL. And, this is on the Last Trumpet website (Yeshua the King)."
"I suspect that
pre-tribulationism will continue to be
maligned until very few hold on. It is
also dispensationalism and pre-millenialism that they must
discredit. I just wish the people were
astute enough to question Ed's
recommended links along with his promotion of post tribulationism."
"It just seems to me that for a post-tribulation belief, you
must be associated with Jacob, for the great tribulation is clearly "Jacob's
trouble." This is why the Post
Tribulation people mostly also believe in the Hebrew Roots Movement. The "two sticks" are the two
Houses of Israel, which they say are Ephraim (Gentiles) and Judah (Jews)."
also covet the promises of Israel for an earthly inheritance. And, they must go through
tribulation to be qualified (as
they say) for the end time rewards. Ed
even uses the term "Joel's army" which is not
Scriptural. They insist this is
necessary, not knowing that the whole Christian life is one of
tribulation, and when Jacob goes through his "trouble", we will be at rest."
Ed Tarkowski's Discussion List ; Hebrew
Roots; The Spreading
Hebrew Roots, etc.
Pre-wrath proponents typically parrot Warnock's teachings that the Pre-Tribulation
Rapture doctrine is merely "escapism." Some teach that those who believe in the Pre-Tribulation Rapture
will readily accept the Antichrist simply because they'll be (obediently) watching for
"Christ" to appear. If Pre-Trib is
true, then they won't be here to see the anti-Christ, and would not worship
anything on this earth.
and post-trib proponents, on the
other hand, are watching for the appearance of the anti-christ, believing his
appearance is the one to be yearned for. His appearance is the indicator for
them that the time has arrived, or things will soon be done. But
we don't know when any of that will happen and are commanded, to look for
9:28 " So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation."
The focus is to be Christ, not what is happening around us. We're to be
aware, and be about the Master's business, but our hearts desire is to be to see
Him face to face, and desire His return.
Jesus expressly told his disciples to "watch
ye therefore, and pray always, that they would be counted "worthy to
escape'' all these things that shall come to pass. . ." [Luke
24: 43-44 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
Paul spoke of a crown of righteousness which would be given to those who "love his appearing":
Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness,
which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me
only, but to all them also that love his appearing." II Tim. 4:8
False prophets who
disparage those who long to be out of this
world in order to be with their Lord, are like their forefather, George
Warnock, who actually stated in a chapter titled, 'The Churches False Hope,’
that such Christians are "carnal" and "earthly minded. He
evaluated that desire by those who believe in a Rapture of
believers, not realizing that all Believers are to desire and yearn for our
"The Church of Christ is literally filled with carnal, earthly
minded Christians who sit back in ease and self-complacency and await a rapture
that will translate them out of the midst of earth's Great tribulation at the
beginning of the Day of the Lord. . .vast majority of evangelical circles we
are taught that any moment God's people shall be caught up, raptured, to be
with the Lord in the air--to escape the Great tribulation. . .It is not true. .
.we are nowhere taught that the saints are going to escape the hour of Great
Tribulation by way of rapture. . ." 15
that, if the rapture were to take place, Latter Rain teachers will explain the possible disappearance of Christians as merely the removal of "stumbling blocks" or
"opposers" to the Manifest Sons of God, Joel's Army. That is also found in New Age teachings, although
the wording and reasons are slightly different. Latter Rain doctrine teaches the
perfection of Christians and the maturing of Christ, is "the Kingdom of God within you," ON THIS EARTH:
". . .God is
hastening the day and hour of Christian perfection. We do not have it, nor have
we seen it in any person anywhere at any time. . .We are speaking ,
rather of a life which is the very life of Jesus
Christ reproduced in the fragile earthen vessels of this human clay. Our
prayer, therefore should be as Jesus commanded, "Thy Kingdom come, Thy
will be done in earth, even as it is in Heaven." It is, first and
foremost, the birth of the Kingdom of God in our own little earth, in the clay
of our flesh; for the "Kingdom of God is within you. . ." It is the
perfecting into maturity of the Christ who came into out hearts as the Seed
when we received Him as our Savior. . .It is "Christ in you, the hope of
glory," rising up unto maturity, and being "formed within you."
". . .The Church may proclaim an imminent rapture as much as
they will, and teach that at any moment the saints will be snatched away from earth to escape the
gathering clouds of Tribulation. But this is not the teaching of God's Word. . .but
this is not the "Appearing" of modern evangelical theology. This glorious Appearing must first of
all be manifest in the saints. . .God is revealing the pattern of perfection. The
Ascension gifts, the ministries in the Body of Christ--these are the means of perfecting the saints--. .
.they are to remain in the Church till we all come into unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of
the Son of God, unto a perfect man!"
Hank Hanagraff of
the Christian Research Institute and others advocate the Reconstruction of
society through such venues
as the Millstatt
Forum, where the secular 'elite' of the world are expected to adopt the
Christian belief system as their standard.
Is there any difference between the
particular Pre-wrath or Post-Tribulation teaching of these
misnamed "discernment ministries" and Rick Joyner who teaches a
slightly different form of Post-Trib Dominionism? As for king's and heads of
state revering this Joel's Army as the "dread army of the Lord", we
suspect that those who entertain these delusions of worldly grandeur are the
"carnal, earthly minded" types rather than those who wait for the Bridegroom's return.
Jesus stated in Matthew 10:22, that His disciples will be hated:
"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake:
but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."
The only mention of
a 'dread army' doing signs and wonders that is called upon by presidents and
kings in the last days is found in Revelation
"And I saw three unclean spirits like
frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast
and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils,
working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole
world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty."
Next Section: Lying
Signs and Wonders
Warnock, The Feast of the Tabernacles: The
Hope of the Church, reprinted March 1978, Sharon Schools, North Battleford, SK. Canada, p. 82.
Ibid. p. 83.
Ibid. p. 79.
As cited in MJAA and Joseph Project Prayer Watch; Y2K
and Josephs.htm by Rohn Price Prayer Coordinator, MJAA Joseph Project and, entire article of Y2K
AND THE CHURCH by Rick Joyner, MorningStar Ministries Source: http://www.eaglestar.org/MSPBOct98.htm
F. W. Grant, The Numerical Bible: Matthew to John,
Loizeaux Brothers, Neptune, NJ, p. 453.
ben Mordechai, Halacha; www.millenium7000.com/halacha.htm,
as cited in The
Bible and the Talmud
Op.cit. Warnock, p. 33.
Heresies" V.XXIX. No.1"; Antenicene Fathers; p. 558;Edited by Alexander
Roberts & James Donaldson; Hendrickspon Publishers; 1994; Vol.1.
Op. cit.,Warnock, p.46.
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